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[Marcster]

OK, this information supersedes anything I've said about the TomTom series:

Spoiler

Well, now that I purchased two TomTom One LEs and have really delved into it, it seems that the FREE map updates are not all they are cracked up to be:

I was under the impression that TomTom's map updates were free forever (along with Scott as well as many other GDers...)

However, now that I've installed TomTom HOME 2 (the software that allows you to update and backup your device), I see that things are not as we assumed.

Rather than let you buy a device with out-of-date maps (such as the two year old Garmin c330), TomTom lets you download unlimited map updates for the first 30 days that the device is put into service.

While this means that you'll always have the "freshest" maps from the get go, it doesn't mean that you'll have "free maps for life" which is the impression that many GDers and all of the reviews that I read were under.

I don't know if this is a recent change in TomTom's thinking, or if they've made it a fuzzy issue on purpose... From the reading that I've done on TomTomforums.com, apparently TomTom makes a great device but the company's customer care can be a little lacking at times.

Another crazy thing is that you can only send updates to the rest of the community through the MapShare feature for the first year. This allows "locals" to advise others to road closures, bridge closures, etc. You would think that they would want to allow this type of updates forever, for the good of the community but no... apparently after the first year, your advice is worthless. This may change since MapShare has only been around for about 2 months in my estimation.

Apparently a set of Complete Maps of US/Canada are around $70 (charged as GPB) or you can choose from 6 different regions of the US for about $60 each. Alaska and Canada are lumped into a 7th region.

As an alternative, there's TomTom doesn't hold a gun to your head to force you to buy new maps. If you happen to live in an area with no new construction, you could conceivably use the same map edition for years.

On the plus side, you can purchase maps of most other countries and take your TomTom with you on a international vacation, so there's that.

Go to TomTom's new Web site: http://www.livechangingmaps.com and click on the "Latest Map Guarantee". There you will see the policy in black and white. However, I must say that as a Web designer, I am blown away by the Flash work on that spinning globe. WOW!

I don't feel that it's bait-and-switch, but I can't believe that at least one review didn't make this more clear. At the very least, they provide you with current maps from the start, which is more than I can say for other GPS companies.

Due to the work involved, I WILL NOT be going through this thread and correcting every instance where I (and others) said that TomTom maps were free for life.

Here is a one-stop for all the GPS Navigation Units that are being offered on BF.

Because of the limitations of the amount of text that you can put into one post, I have split this "report" into 4 posts. Just scroll down to see everything.

NOTE: All units offered this BF have either Voice Prompts (A voice will say things like "Turn right in 500 ft.") --or-- Text to Speech (A voice will say things like "Turn right onto Buckeye St. in 500 ft.).

Personally, I don't think that there's that big of a deal between the two systems but some people really like having the street name read aloud. Might be useful if there are a lot of street signs where you are driving, but if you live in Sticksville, this is a non-issue.

I repeat: ALL of the units have a voice that will tell you when to turn. At one point in this process, I thought that the TomTom One units were silent, but as it turns out all units offered on BF have voice prompts at the minimum.

As you read this, POI stands for "Points of Interest". That's every bank, restaurant, gas station, post office, store, school, etc. that you can search for and map to. The more the better.

The Navigon 2100 and the Garmin Nuvi units were the only ones that I found that would tell you specifically which lane to be in for upcoming exits or turns. Not to say that they were the only ones that have that little feature, but they were the only ones touting it as a feature...

Marcster's Short List: (Updated 11/21/07 @ 7:15am)

Spoiler

First of all, I don't think that text-to-speech is that big of a deal, so I don't value it as much as other people might. (I wouldn't be willing to pay a premium to get it over a comparable voice prompt unit).

The Top Choice Award in my opinion is a tie: The TomTom One 3rd edition/TomTom LE (at Best Buy) and the Navigon 2100.

It's a good fight, but you'll have to be the referee as to who wins this match!

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The TomTom One 3rd edition (many retailers) or the One LE (at Best Buy) are both good solid choices. I wouldn't bother with the "plain" TomTom Ones at hhgregg and PepBoys. You have to love TomTom for giving you FREE map updates. Everyone else charges.

With the ability to upload maps to your GPS through Mapshare (a computer program), you should be able to easily add in many lists of additional POIs through sites like www.poi-factory.com, www.gpspassion (http://www.gpspassio...?TOPIC_ID=56474), etc. (just Google for "POI List").

Heck, even corporations are *starting* to get in on the POI list idea. For instance, Sheetz (a chain of gas stations) has a POI list of all their stations: http://www.sheetz.co...cations/gps.cfm -- it's only a matter of time till other businesses start making POI lists in a cheap way to get you to visit their businesses. It's free advertising for them, after all.

Where POIs become most useful is when you are already out and about. Suppose you are at the mall and get a craving for Red Lobster. Just search for it in the POI listings of your GPS.

I don't want to make it seem like POIs are just businesses, POIs would include post offices, banks, gyms, arenas, baseball parks, etc. Certainly some of those will already be programmed into whatever GPS unit you choose, it would be nice to be able to add in a list of skeet shooting ranges or quilting stores if that's what you're into.

However, if where you want to go IS NOT in your GPS' list of POIs, then you will have to enter your ending address in manually. You're always going to have to do this for your friends' houses, but it would be a pain to have to look up online for an amusement park's address, for instance. You can see why being able to supplement your GPS unit's list of POIs would be a good thing.

TomToms have Advanced Planning capabilities. When you tap on advanced planning, you bring up a “Depart From” screen that allows you to enter your an address other than where the unit is currently located, an arrival airport let’s say, and then you proceed to enter your destination. Before you even depart for your trip, you already have your route to the hotel planned and in the TT1, ready to go when you jump in the rental car, you'll know the distance, mileage, travel time, etc. Very nice. You can also use this feature to help out a lost friend over the phone.

While TomTom's interface is not as "pretty" as the Navigon's, you can manipulate the colors on the TomToms -- I'm not sure to what degree, but it is an option.

Route planning options include: fastest, shortest, avoid highways, bicycle, or walking.

TomToms One 3rd editions have the "HELP ME!" feature, which apparently includes everything from directions to the nearest hospital to "car maintenance information" to first aid instructions. I am not sure if the TomTom One LEs have this...

TomTom One (3rd or LE) advantages over the Navigon2100: FREE map updates, ability to add POIs (as lists or one by one), ability to add additional voices for audio prompts, advanced route planning, TomTom Ones have maps for all 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico (P.R. may not be on the TomTom One LE) vs. just the 48 contiguous states on the Navigon.

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If you want traffic services, then the Navigon 2100 (RadioShack or Staples) is for you. Everyone else who has a traffic service capable unit charges for the service. Navigon gives it to you for free (on BF). Traffic services are available for 68 cities. To see how far out the traffic info goes, go to www.realtimetraffic.net, click on the "Coverage Map" and pick a city. Any of the areas that are highlighted in GREEN are covered as far as traffic data goes.

The Navigon's "Reality View™" makes for the most beautiful 3-D interface barring the $399 HP iPaq GPS.

Route planning options include: fastest, "optimized", shortest, and scenic. You can also choose whether you will be using a car, a bike or by foot. According to one review, "fastest" should be avoided -- use optimized instead.

Navigon 2100 advantages over the TomTom One (3rd or LE): FREE real-time traffic updates (for 68 cities), tells you which lane to be in for your upcoming turn or exit (good for complicated highway ramps), text-to-speech vs. standard voice prompts.

Want to go for a test drive?: Startup time video:

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Both the TomTom and the Navigon feature: multi-stop route planning (TT1 LE and Navigon 2100 only) and car speed linked volume (volume of voice instructions will increase/decrease depending on speed of car), upcoming sign post information, and both units can advise you of when you are exceeding the speed limit.

Please note that the TomTom One LE (that Best Buy sells) has multi-stop itinerary capabilities while the TomTom One Version 3 does not. Confusing, I know. Imagine having to write this report. This only came to light this morning (11/21).

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Here are some other recommendations:

I just want to add that the ability to add POI lists is available for TomToms, Garmins, Magellans, and Mios. The Navigon does not have that capability at present.

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For $150, I think the Mio C320 is the good compromise. It's a widescreen so you can get more info on the screen at once, it's hackable if you'd enjoy that, and a strong user forum. I am not crazy about the fact that the C320 doesn't have Canada (not a huge deal, the last time I personally went to Toronto was 5 years ago). The C320 also lacks text-to-speech, if that matters to you.

If you want to be in the $260 range, the widescreen TomTom One XL-S is the obvious choice. Again, love the FREE map updates. Some other companies charge $70!

If you are willing to brave the big crowds and want to buy a solid basic unit for Grandma or the not-so-technically-oriented, go get a Garmin Nuvi 200 (BB), Magellan Roadmate 1200 (CC), or that Garmin Streetpilot C330 (WM). Garmin is easily the most popular brand out there. Keep in mind that the C330 at WM is a two-year old unit and may have two year old maps to match.

Just to prove that cheap is not always bad... The Mio C220 ($80 or less) has some really good things going for it.

And on the bottom of the list...

The Magellan 3100 would be at the bottom of my list of the "Top Tier" units. 750,000 points of interest spread across 48 states? Why even bother having POIs at all?

I think the Magellan Maestro 4000 is overpriced next to the competition... It's $249.99 and the "big advantage" is that it's a widescreen. Having a widescreen is nice and all, but is it worth 50% more over a comparable unit with the same basic features?

Oh, and one thing against Garmin's Streetpilot series... They aren't the most "pocketable" of designs, they are shaped like mini tube-style TVs. If you wanted a unit you could just stuff into a shirt pocket or a briefcase, then you'll want something else.

GPS Lodge just published their list of recommendations (11/21/07). Very similar conclusions to mine:
http://www.gpslodge....ives/014753.php

[Marcster]

GPS Units that provide Voice Prompts (A voice will say things like "Turn right in 500 ft.)

~~Garmin StreetPilot c330~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 5mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: ???
Pros: Basic design might be easier for the non-tech-oriented user.
Cons: Reasonably "old tech" -- release date was Spring 2005. Only the most basic of options are available on this.
$128.88 @ Circuit City
http://reviews.cnet....7-31288776.html
http://www.pcmag.com...,1849760,00.asp
http://gpstracklog.t...n_streetpi.html
http://www.time.com/...adget/20050406/ (review date of 3/6/05, yeah, this thing is OLD)

~~Garmin Nuvi 200~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 6mil Maps: 48 contiguous states, plus Hawaii & Puerto Rico (No Alaska or Canada) GPS Type: ???
Pros: Picture viewer (if that matters to you)
Cons: No MP3 player (if that matters to you)
$169.99 @ Best Buy
http://reviews.cnet...._7-6737607.html
http://review.zdnet....6-32370612.html
http://gizmodo.com/g...able-246090.php
http://gpstracklog.t...nuvi_200_1.html

~~Garmin Nuvi 200W~~ (the wide screen version of the entry-level nuvi 200)
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 480x272 pixels, POI: 6mil Maps: 48 contiguous states, Hawaii & Puerto Rico (No Alaska or Canada) GPS Type: ???
Pros: Picture viewer (if that matters to you)
Cons: No MP3 player (if that matters to you)
$249.99 @ CompUSA (Friday)
$349.99 @ L-N-T (20% off coupon makes this $279.99)
http://reviews.cnet....7-32480172.html
http://gpstracklog.t...n-nuvi-200.html
http://www.gpslodge....ives/010299.php

~~Magellan Roadmate 1200~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 1.3mil Maps: 48 contiguous states, Hawaii & Puerto Rico (No Alaska or Canada) GPS Type: SiRFstar III chipset
Pros: Very basic unit which might make it easier for non-tech people to use
Cons: Only 1.3 mil POI, no MP3 player, no picture viewer (if you care)
$124.99 @ Circuit City
http://www.mobilewha...-roadmate-1200/
http://www.ubergizmo...dmate_1200.html
http://www.engadget....w-enders-happy/

~~Magellan Maestro 3100~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: only 750K (very few) Maps: 48 contiguous states GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: It can handle multi-stop trips (like the Mio units), "The windshield mount is long enough that the Maestro isn't too far away from the driver. Some other GPS devices ship with mounts that are too short, and place the GPS too close to the windshield."
Cons: Only 750K POIs -- are they kidding? -- no GPS being offered on BF has fewer POIs!, It's apparently difficult to remove the device from the vehicle mount., Also "While maps were readable, we thought the color was a bit washed out and wished there was a little more contrast. Lowering the screen's brightness helped slightly, but it wasn't quite up to par with some other systems we've seen."
$129.99 @ K-mart (Thanksgiving Day Sale)
$129.99 @ Radio Shack
$139.97 @ hhgregg
$139.99 @ Staples
$139.99 @ OfficeMax
$139.99 @ CompUSA (Thursday)
$149.00 @ Target
$149.99 @ Sears
http://reviews.cnet....7-32452786.html
http://www.gpsmagazi...100_indepth.php
http://www.engadget....-gets-reviewed/
http://gpstracklog.t...n_maestr_1.html

~~Magellan Maestro 4000~~
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 480x272 pixels, POI: 1.6 mil Maps: 48 contiguous states GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: The 4000 series units feature “Quickspell” capability, which limits the letters on the keyboard to only those letters that can logically be next in the street name (or town/state) that you are typing. Definitely a nice feature.
Cons: Only 1.6 mil POIs
$199.99 @ Meijer (Thanksgiving Day Sale)
$249.99 @ OfficeMax
$249.99 @ Sears
http://reviews.cnet....7-32382701.html
http://www.gpslodge....ives/010610.php
http://gpstracklog.t...lan_maestr.html

~~Mio DigiWalker C220~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 3.5 mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada and Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: Mio GPS units can be modified for additional functionality if you wish -- at your own risk -- http://hugginsnet.com/ilovemymio
One nifty thing about Mio GPS units is that they are built on the Windows CE.Net 5.0 operating system and can be modified for additional features, Red Light Camera or Speed Cameras anyone??? How about changing the "skin" to make it match your personal style? (similar to the desktop on a computer). How about watching a video file, viewing pictures, etc. on your Mio? (even though it doesn't have that feature "out of the box", apparently, you can add software to it to give it additional functionality). The Mio C220 now uses TeleAtlas maps (ver. 2006.10) vs. the Mio Map 3.2 they used to use (apparently the new ones are more accurate), The Mio also has the ability to start a route somewhere else (Advanced and seldom used, it can help you when you are armchair quarterbacking your route planning -- this can also help you guide someone else over the phone to another location)
Cons: Speaker is kinda quite from what I've read, "The screen is moderately bright, and not the brightest I have ever seen. Very passable in all but the most direct sunlight.", the power connection is on the bottom edge of the unit which may limit your mounting options, They apparently need to add “Along Route” to the POI option list. Apparently, you can search for POIs that are nearby to where you are, but you would have trouble finding food, fuel, post office, along your planned route -- the unit will tell you where the nearest POI is, but that may not be in the direction you are traveling. As I understand it, the US model Mios only have one male voice unless you add more voices to the unit (they can be downloaded). Other company's GPS units have 12+ voices to choose from.

"There are some advanced features that aren’t found in some other units at much higher prices. I’ll admit though that this can send beginners into a tailspin, but if you are up to the task, the capabilities are pretty powerful. <snip> The question of screen brightness has come up several times in various online postings, and I see it this way: The Mio C220 screen is not the brightest, but in all but the worst conditions it works well for me. To me the advantage of so many other features on the C220 far outweighs this slight blemish when comparing to other units in this price range. I see this as a pretty good value." http://www.gpslodge....ives/011571.php

$79.98 AR @ PepBoys (here's a $10 coupon for PepBoys, YMMV) PepBoys is also giving the first 50 people in line a $10 gift card.
$99.99 @ OfficeMax
$99.99 @ Micro Center
$99.99 @ Circuit City
http://reviews.cnet....7-32422275.html
http://www.ubergizmo...220_review.html
http://www.gpslodge....ives/011571.php

~~Mio DigiWalker C320~~
Screen:WIDESCREEN 4.3" , 480x272 pixels, POI: 1.7 mil Maps: All 50 states & Puerto Rico (No Canada) GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: Mio GPS units can be modified for additional functionality if you wish -- at your own risk -- http://hugginsnet.com/ilovemymio
One nifty thing about Mio GPS units is that they are built on the Windows CE.Net 5.0 operating system and can be modified for additional features, Red Light Camera or Speed Cameras anyone??? How about changing the "skin" to make it match your personal style? (similar to the desktop on a computer). How about watching a video file, viewing pictures, etc. on your Mio? (even though it doesn't have that feature "out of the box", apparently, you can add software to it to give it additional functionality). An MP3 player is here (vs. the C220). The Mio C320 now uses TeleAtlas maps (ver. 2006.10) vs. the Mio Map 3.2 they used to use (apparently the new ones are more accurate), Compatible with traffic service (but at an additional cost), Split screen tabbed browsing is a big plus (go here http://www.gpslodge....ives/013522.php and scroll down to the Tabbed Browsing heading for a full explanation)
Cons: There is a POI search for stores and places of business, which is a huge help, but the database is a bit limited. WalMart, Target, Dunkin' Donuts, Starbucks are all in there, but things like Old Navy and The Gap aren’t. As I understand it, the US model Mios only have one male voice unless you add more voices to the unit (they can be downloaded). Other company's GPS units have 12+ voices to choose from.

"Overall, I think that the Mio C320 is a solid GPS for Mio and offers a good entry-level widescreen GPS. Mio continues to keep price pressure on the GPS world, and in the year since they rocked the GPS market with the introduction of the Mio C310x, they have seen more competition in the value end of the market. With that said, they have not stood still and continue to innovate and drive shelf prices lower, keeping a price edge and staying competitive in features arena. The navigation is sound, and the interface is good, but not as dead easy at a Garmin. There are a lot of very happy Mio users who come to learn the interface quickly and are confident in the navigation. I think that the Mio C320 represents a good value with some innovative features that can make your navigation life easier after you learn your way around the interface. Definitely add the Mio C320 to the list when shopping around for entry-level GPS devices." http://www.gpslodge....ives/013522.php

$149.99 @ Radio Shack
http://www.gpslodge....ives/013522.php
http://www.vnunet.co...walker-c320-sat
http://www.gadgetspe...Navigation.html


~~TomTom One~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 1.6mil Maps: All 50 states & Canada (No Puerto Rico) GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: FREE, that's right, FREE MAP UPDATES!, choice of routes: such as quickest, shortest, avoiding toll roads, pedestrian and bicycling routes (most GPS units only allow choice of the quickest or the shortest), Itinerary planning: plan your trip by defining multiple waypoints and destinations, optional warning when exceeding recorded speed limit (available on most highways and major roads), car speed linked volume: volume of voice instructions will increase/decrease depending on speed of car, sign post information: exit sign info displayed in navigation mode, Built-in Bluetooth technology for TomTom PLUS services (Easy connection process to the mobile phone for PLUS Services only -- this unit WILL NOT sync with your phonefor hands-free calling -- look to some of the $300+ units for that kind of functionality
Cons: Can take a minute to get a full satellite lock. No integrated music or video player, don't want a photo viewer (again, if you care), the POI list may be a little dated (missing POIs that "should be there" or ones that are listed that are out of business)
$129.97 @ hhgregg
$139.98 @ PepBoys (here's a $10 coupon for PepBoys, YMMV) PepBoys is also giving the first 50 people in line a $10 gift card.
http://reviews.cnet....7-32026663.html
http://www.gpsmagazi..._one.php?page=1
http://gpstracklog.t...m_one_revi.html (with links to even MORE reviews on the TomTom One)

~~TomTom One - 3rd Edition~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 1.6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III GPS Receiver
Pros: FREE, that's right, FREE MAP UPDATES!, choice of routes: such as quickest, shortest, avoiding toll roads, pedestrian and bicycling routes (most GPS units only allow choice of the quickest or the shortest), optional warning when exceeding recorded speed limit (available on most highways and major roads), car speed linked volume: volume of voice instructions will increase/decrease depending on speed of car, sign post information: exit sign info displayed in navigation mode, Built-in Bluetooth technology for TomTom PLUS services (Easy connection process to the mobile phone for PLUS Services only -- this unit WILL NOT sync with your phonefor hands-free calling -- look to some of the $300+ units for that kind of functionality
Cons: ???

The main difference with the 3rd edition over the "plain" TomTom Ones is support for TomTom Map Share™ which lets users share improvements, daily, automatically and easily via TomTom HOME – TomTom’s free software application. TomTom has the world’s largest satellite navigation community with over 10 million users. TomTom Map Share™ users can contribute and exchange all their improvements amongst each other, making the best maps available for all of them. TomTom Map Share™ means TomTom drivers can always have the most up-to-date maps and inside local knowledge at their fingertips., a new "enhanced UI," and a new "HELP ME!" feature, which apparently includes everything from directions to the nearest hospital to car maintenance information to first aid instructions. Another addition to the 3rd edition is the availability of TMC traffic (requires an additonal service, around $60/year) The 3rd edition also has maps for Puerto Rico (the "plain" does not).

$124.99 w/$20 Staples Gift Card instantly @ Staples
$129.99 @ Office Depot
$139.99 @ Radio Shack
$149.99 @ CompUSA (Thur-Sat)
http://reviews.cnet....7-32591584.html
http://www.engadget....-north-america/
http://www.gpslodge....ives/013117.php

~~TomTom One LE~~
$119.99 @ Best Buy
This is a Best Buy exclusive:
"...it will only be available through Best Buy, and for only a short period of time. The people I spoke with didn't have firm details about it. However it was mentioned that it would be similar to the ONE 2nd Edition, but without Bluetooth and an SD card. So it appears to be like the hardware of the ONE 3rd Edition, but with full NavCore 7 rather than just NavCore 7 Lite. Details are still a little sketchy at this point though."
Source = http://www.gpsreview...opic.php?p=9110
(I would consider the "LE edition" to be superior to the standard TomTom One, maybe even the 3rd edition, but it's up to you if you want to brave BB's lines.)

[Marcster]

GPS Units that provide true Text-to-Speech (A voice will say things like "Turn right onto Buckeye St. in 500 ft.)

~~Garmin StreetPilot c340~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: nearly 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: ???
Pros: Compatible with traffic updates service (but at an additional cost), you can now import customized points of interest with the help of Garmin's free POI Loader software. The possibilities are endless — upload safety cameras or school zones, and you will receive a warning if you are traveling too fast. In addition, an optional proximity-alert feature notifies you of upcoming custom POIs.
Cons: Some readers posting at ZDNet/CNet complain of poor signal acquisition and lock-ups in their c340 reviews. (but that could be due to needing firmware updates)
$199.99 @ Circuit City
http://reviews.cnet....7-31468212.html (Goodness - the video is really old - apparently the c340 retailed for $800 when it was first released).
http://gpstracklog.t...n_streetpi.html
http://jeremy.zawodn...ves/006212.html

~~Garmin StreetPilot c550~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: nearly 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III chipset
Pros: BLUETOOTH, MP3 Player, You can now import customized points of interest with the help of Garmin's free POI Loader software. The possibilities are endless — upload safety cameras or school zones, and you will receive a warning if you are traveling too fast. In addition, an optional proximity-alert feature notifies you of upcoming custom POIs. A 3-month subscription is included in the U.S. -- after that it will cost you $60 for 15 months.
Cons: Occasionally slow to acquire a satellite fix
$329.99 @ Best Buy
http://reviews.cnet....7-31789579.html
http://gpsinformatio...fo/550/550.html

~~Garmin StreetPilot c580~~
The c580 is exactly the same as the c550, but with the addition of the MSN Direct service.
The first year of MSN Direct service is included with the unit. After that, it's $49.95/year or a one time payment of $129.95. MSN Direct service is not available in all areas.
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: nearly 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III chipset
Pros:BLUETOOTH, MP3 Player, You can now import customized points of interest with the help of Garmin's free POI Loader software. The possibilities are endless — upload safety cameras or school zones, and you will receive a warning if you are traveling too fast. In addition, an optional proximity-alert feature notifies you of upcoming custom POIs.

The main difference between the Garmin StreetPilot c550 and this unit is the addition of the MSN Direct services. With it, you can receive real-time traffic conditions, and you can even avoid the congested areas before hitting the road, as the unit provides directions around the traffic. Alternatively, if you happen to hit traffic as you're driving, the c580 will automatically look for alternate routes. For more info: http://garmin.msndir...lansGarmin.aspx

$399.99 @ CompUSA (Thur-Fri-Sat) (Free $25 Gift Card with Any GPS Purchase $259 & Up)
http://reviews.cnet....7-32309199.html
http://gizmodo.com/g...atch-243683.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/c580 (great video of features)
http://review.zdnet....6-32309199.html
http://gpstracklog.t...eetpi.html#more

~~Garmin nuvi 260~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels POI: 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada and Puerto Rico GPS Type: ???
Pros: Picture viewer (if that matters to you)
Cons: No MP3 player (if that matters to you)
$249.97 @ hhgregg
$249.99 @ Staples
http://reviews.cnet....7-32566237.html
http://gpstracklog.t...n-nuvi-260.html
http://www.satnavrev...-level_nuvi_260

~~Garmin nuvi 350~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels POI: 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFSTAR III
Pros: Compatible with traffic updates service (but at an additional cost), Picture viewer, MP3 Player, Audio Book Player, language translator (if that matters to you)
Cons: ???
$299.99 @ Bass Pro Shops
$299.99 @ Circuit City
http://reviews.cnet....7-31518214.html
http://www.37signals...recommended.php
http://gpstracklog.t...n_nuvi_350.html

~~Garmin nuvi 660~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: nearly 6mil Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III chipset
Pros: BLUETOOTH, Compatible with traffic updates service (but at an additional cost), MP3 Player, Picture Viewer, FM Transmitter (as I understand it, you should be able to tune your car's radio to a particular FM station and hear the MP3s and text-to-speech instructions through your car's speakers)
$399.99 @ Best Buy
http://reviews.cnet....7-32078943.html (apparently, this unit retailed for $1,000 at launch)
http://www.gpsmagazi...epth_review.php (Editor's Choice Award of 2006)
http://www.gpslodge....ives/007791.php (10/10/06 reviewer's comments= "the best GPS I have ever used")

~~HP iPaq 310 Travel Companion~~
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 800x480 pixels (better than the 480x272 on most widescreen units), POI: ??? Maps: ??? GPS Type: 600Mhz Centrality Titan DualCore platform
Pros: BLUETOOTH, The 600Mhz Titan is rated at an equivalent of 2 Million correlators, to be compared to the 200,000 of the SiRFstarIII chipset and 200,000 polygons in OpenGL, unique 3D Navigation including accurate 3D buildings (http://www.infosyncw...0.html?rfp=dta), "Enjoy your music, videos, preinstalled games, and photos"
$399.99 @ CompUSA (Thur-Fri-Sat) (Free $25 Gift Card with Any GPS Purchase $259 & Up)
http://www.gpspassio...?TOPIC_ID=96823
http://www.notebooks...ps-device-video
http://www.hhcmag.co...q_310/index.htm

~~Magellan Maestro 4040~~
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 480x272 pixels, POI: 4.5 mil Maps: All 50 states, Puerto Rico & Canada GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: BLUETOOTH, compatible with traffic updates service (but at an additional cost), The 4000 series units feature “Quickspell” capability, which limits the letters on the keyboard to only those letters that can logically be next in the street name (or town/state) that you are typing. Definitely a nice feature.
Cons: ???
$299.99 @ Radio Shack
http://www.gpsmagazi...aestro_4040.php
http://reviews.cnet....7-32382700.html
http://www.pcmag.com...,2115051,00.asp

~~Magellan Maestro 4210~~
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 480x272 pixels, POI: 6 mil Maps: All 50 states, Puerto Rico & Canada GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: Built-In AAA Travel Information, The 4000 series units feature “Quickspell” capability, which limits the letters on the keyboard to only those letters that can logically be next in the street name (or town/state) that you are typing. Definitely a nice feature.
Cons: I can't tell if it has Bluetooth and I can't tell if traffic service is available
$299.99 @ CompUSA (Thur-Fri-Sat) (Free $25 Gift Card with Any GPS Purchase $259 & Up).
http://www.magellanmaestro4210.com

~~Navigon 2100~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 1.6mil Maps: 48 contiguous states only GPS Type: SiRFstar III

NOTE: I had some questions about the Navigon that I couldn't find on their site. Read my summary of a phone call to a Navigon Tech Support Agent.

Pros: Lifetime traffic Service for 68 major cities is included (http://www.navigon.c...s/traffic.html), IMHO it's the most attractive interfaces barring the HP iPaq 310, Automatic Speed Warnings: Shows posted speed limit and notifies driver with visual and verbal warnings when driver is speeding, at $99.99, this is the cheapest GPS with text-to-speech, Access to Zagat data (restaurant reviews) is availble for $39.
Cons: Not that many reviews about the 2100, period (and none that actually review a 2100 in use vs. just rehashing the features list). The higher end Navigon units have been reported to take a long time to get a satellite lock (2 minutes for the 7100 and 7 minutes for the 5100)
$99.99 w/Lifetime Traffic Service ($99 value) @ Staples
$149.99 w/Lifetime Traffic Service ($99 value) @ Radio Shack
---> The exact model at Staples is the 2100T, I believe it's because the Traffic feature is bundled in the box, not an add on like they are probably doing at Radio Shack. If you know otherwise, PM me. <--
http://www.mobilewha...wows-consumers/
http://www.gpslodge....ives/013367.php
http://www.gpsdock.c...m-navigon-2100/
http://terrywhite.com/techblog/?p=377 (thanks ctxx24!)
Video Demo: http://www.navigon.c...00_320x240.html

~~TomTom One XL-S~~
Screen: WIDESCREEN 4.3", 480x272 pixels, POI: "millions" (probably 6mil) Maps: All 50 states, Canada & Puerto Rico GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: FREE, that's right, FREE MAP UPDATES!, choice of routes: such as quickest, shortest, avoiding toll roads, pedestrian and bicycling routes (most GPS units only allow choice of the quickest or the shortest), Itinerary planning: plan your trip by defining multiple waypoints and destinations, optional warning when exceeding recorded speed limit (available on most highways and major roads), car speed linked volume: volume of voice instructions will increase/decrease depending on speed of car, sign post information: exit sign info displayed in navigation mode, Built-in Bluetooth technology INCLUDING hands-free calling, traffic service is available (but at an additonal cost)
Cons: ???
$259.99 @ Office Depot
http://gpstracklog.t...m-one-xl-s.html
http://www.gpslodge....ives/014097.php
http://www.electroni...omtom.one.xl.s/

~~TomTom GO 720~~ (I'm pretty sure this is the model - hhgregg's ad doesn't say)
Because I am not 100% sure about which unit this is, and because hhgregg is the only store offering this unit, I'm not really going to spend time looking for all the details (sorry). If you are interested, check out the links below. I do know that it's a step up from the TomTom One XL-S and it has the text-to-speech capability.
$349.97 @ hhgregg
http://reviews.cnet....?tag=prod.txt.1
http://www.gpsreview.net/tomtom-720/
http://www.gpslodge....ives/011895.php
http://www.pcworld.c...,1/article.html
http://gpstracklog.t...m-go-720-r.html
http://www.tomtom.co...ategory=0&Lid=4

The "Mystery Unit! (LOL!)
~~TomTom 100~~
$449.99 @ Office Depot
I can't find a review or any information about this unit nor can I find it on TomTom.com.

[Marcster]

"Second tier" GPS units: (for lack of a better description)

Spoiler

~~Amcor A3900~~
$99.99 AR @ L-N-T (20% off coupon is not valid on their doorbusters)
I can't find a review -- you are on your OWN!!! -- here's the LNT listing:
http://www.lnt.com/s...pi-2785903.html

~~Delphi Nav200~~
Screen: 3.5" with 4:3 aspect ratio, 320x240 pixels, POI: 1.6mil Maps: 48 contiguous states GPS Type: SiRFstar III
Pros: MP3 player, photo viewer and movie player
Cons: 1.6 million POIs is *NOT* a lot, old-style flip-out antenna, slow to perform some tasks, and all the information on the map screen can be overwhelming at times, tiny on-screen keyboard may require you to use the included stylus to enter your destination, this is very "old tech" in GPS capabilities, there are better choices for the same or less money.
$129.99 @ Sears
http://reviews.cnet....7-32078106.html
http://www.pcmag.com...,2052277,00.asp
http://review.zdnet....6-32078106.html
http://www.gpslodge....ives/008270.php

~~"GPS Navigation System"~~
If Kohl's doesn't think that it's important enough to put the brand name and model number in their ad, then I don't think it's important enough to buy.
$129.99 @ Kohl's

~~Invion 3.5" Text To Voice Touchscreen GPS System~~
$169.88 @ JCPenney
I can't find a review -- you are on your OWN!!!

~~Jensen NVX200~~
$99.97 AR @ hhgregg
http://www.gpslodge....ives/010936.php
<< the only review I could find >>

~~Jensen NVX225~~
$139.00 @ AAFES
http://reviews.cnet....?tag=prod.txt.1
http://review.zdnet....4505-3430_16-3]
http://www.cnn.com/2.../09/jensen.gps/

~~Maxx Digital Portable GPS System~~
$99.99 @ Office Depot
No reviews, but it's one of these two units: http://www.maxxdm.com/gps.html

~~Nextar S3 GPS System~~
$129.99 @ K-Mart
I can't find a review -- you are on your OWN!!!

Handheld Units:

Spoiler

~~Magellan Triton 500 (handheld unit)~~
$149.99 @ Costco
http://gpstracklog.t...lan-triton.html
http://www.gpsreview...lan-triton-2000
[url]http://reviews.cnet....?tag=prod.txt.1

[tokanm]

I am hoping to buy my DS20 a GPS for his car. He has a terrible sense of direction and this would be a huge help for him. He is doing some of his student teaching now and must travel to (and find) different schools in different towns etc. I have seen Magellan and TomTom brands but I have no clue what to look for. I cannot afford the best ones..but I was thinking in the $200 range. Do you think these will a BF item anywhere? It needs to be portable and just plug into the car lighter adapter. Do these have a monthly fee as well? thanks

[zadyju]

We purchased a Nexstar GPS in the automotive department in Wal-Mart for about $149. It works great. It talks to you and show the distance etc. Very easy to use. There is not a monthly fee. I noticed the Best Buy or Curcuit City had one on sale in the weeks circular for $169.

[nikkilugi]

Well I am a bit biased because my mom AND dad work for Garmin, LOL, but we have a Streetpilot 550 which is really great. We got the factory reconditioned one for a little over $200 and it is still warrantied for 1 year. It also has bluetooth, and mp3 capability. Really nice. I think Garmin is the best but of course like I said I am biased - but it is nice because Garmin is US based and has been in the market around here a lot longer than the other companies.

[lIQUIDICE63]

I'm shopping around for a GPS for my car, and I was wondering if you guys think it would be better for me to go out and get one now (like the Refurb TomTom GO 510 for $210) or wait for possible deals on BF? And are there a lot of deals for GPSs on BF? Thanks for the help

[winy926]

wait dnt think anymore im going 2 wait 4 a pda like the nokia n770 or 800 i could get a n770 for 130 right now but will be very cheap later

[bugsette]

I would love one of those

[reido50]

I need one too, tired of taking that wrong turn. Started asking around in the stores a few months ago and all the associater I talked to said go with a Magellan or Garmin. They specifically said they personally would not buy the Tom Tom's. Just FYI.

[jarerice]

I think Dh would like one of these. But they always cost so much. I remember seeing them on sale last BF. But I can't think of where, maybe Sears????

[citrixgirl]

personally I have a tom tom 510 i love it and i would never repeat never go any where without it. My husband and I do loads of traveling and we love it for garage saleing, stops fights about where to turn. We used it last weekend to deliver a baby basket to a co workers house. I even gave a delivery man directions the other day with it. We are hoping to upgrade to a 920 this year for the extra features and bigger screen. also if anyone who already has a tom wants the traffic updates currently it is free because they do not have a pricing system for the American version just call up and have a phone that can do internet and it directs you around traffic. As to weather or not they will be a bf item i am thinking that they might as the 910 and 920 are coming out any day now. Also if someone out there has a 510 series and has the warranty from best buy then if when the new one comes out find a best buy with none of the 510's in stock and then magically have your 510 stop working they don't have the product in stock so you get the 910 for a small upgrade fee, or nothing if you know your best buy manager:yup:

[petalmom]

I bought the Mio C220 a few months back at Staples for like $179. Love it.

[karina_anne]

I just wanted to give you the information on the GPS I just bought. I've been researching and asking around for quite a while and had narrowed it down to a one Garmin Model the 200 and one Magellan Model Maestro 3100. I went to Best Buy and tried them both out and liked the 3100 better. Only it is discontinued and being replaced by the 3200 so they didn't have any in stock. They did tell me that they had thirty in the warehouse and that I could order it and have it shipped to the store. I decided to look online and see if I could get a better price. I found a website that had it for $154 plus shipping. It's called Tech for Less. I've never ordered from them before but I'll let you know how it turns out if you're interested. Hope that is of help!

[mikevermont]

I bought the Mio at Staples last year on BF for around $150 and I also love it. My wife and I just got back from a 5000 mile trip around the southern US and we wouldn't have made it without the GPS.

[nikkilugi]

I just bought my dh a Garmin Streetpilot 550 and he really likes it. It has the traffic function and gives the turn by turn directions. What is even better is that both my mom and dad work for Garmin so not only did we get the employee pricing, but we get super fast awesome support, LOL. Again I am biased but the Garmin is awesome - is based here in the US which Tom Tom is not, and has been in the GPS field for a long time - they are very popular with aviation companies. As far as BF goes I would think there would be some on sale. I don't know if any will be a doorbuster but with how popular they are becoming I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lower cost brands is. Probably not a Garmin though.

[nick_jenni_jocelyn]

we are looking for one right now too. we are seriously looking at this one for $239.99. its even $60 cheaper than walmart.com.

http://www.amazon.co...1175699-9778316

dh asked me if we should wait until BF and i told him i didnt think so. with how popular they are becoming, i am sure that whoever has them on sale, they will go quickly.

[lovetoshopCA]

we've been considering these too, but I am wary of a number of the models that are being sold at cheaper prices. After reading a lot of Amazon reviews, I have seen that a number of them are no longer being supported by their manufacturers as far as new maps and stuff. DH wants one, but he is fussy, so I want to be sure to get the "right" one!

[sm1kla]

A GPS is on my list for DH. He wants one now and I keep telling him to hold off to BF.

[nikkilugi]

Our newspaper - The Kansas City Star ran a story on GPS devices and they said that indications are that GPS's will be doorbusters on BF. Some could go as low as $99. The Consumer reports top 5 Navigation Devices are: 1. Garmin Nuvi 660 2. Garmin Nuvi 350 3. TomTom Go 910 4. Magellan Crossover 5. Garmin StreetPilot c580 I prefer to support US businesses when I can - that is why I am so in love with Garmin - not to mention they are based in the middle of the heartland in Olathe, KS. Garmin is also great with support - they just sent us out an updated map system to download onto our new Streetpilot.

[nirvana4all]

as you can see, the sears ad has like 3 different ones on sale.

[pottsie66]

I need one too, tired of taking that wrong turn. Started asking around in the stores a few months ago and all the associater I talked to said go with a Magellan or Garmin. They specifically said they personally would not buy the Tom Tom's. Just FYI.

I bought the Magellan 2000 at Toys R Us about six weeks ago when it was on clearance for $160. We absolutely LOVE it!!!!

[vicloo]

I am in the market for a GPS for my dd who is a Child Protective Service investigator and does a lot of driving around, looking for various addresses. I would like to spend about $300 for a GPS. Costco currently has a Garvin 250W for that price. Would I be better to wait for any BF sales? Just naturally want the most for my money.

[Scott]

I would definately say there will be some good GPS deals this BF.

I would suggest staying with one of the name brands Magellan, TomTom, Garmin.

I see already that the leaked Sears ad has the Magellan 4000 and 3100 for $100 off what Sears is selling them for right now.

http://blackfriday.g...irds/yes/Page/3

$149 for the 3100
$249 for the 4000

With that kind of deal, I would definately hold off until BF if you can.

[Swampbaby]

I would definately say there will be some good GPS deals this BF.

I would suggest staying with one of the name brands Magellan, TomTom, Garmin.

I see already that the leaked Sears ad has the Magellan 4000 and 3100 for $100 off what Sears is selling them for right now.

http://blackfriday.g...irds/yes/Page/3

$149 for the 3100
$249 for the 4000

With that kind of deal, I would definately hold off until BF if you can.

AND BuyDig.com has the Magellan 4000 for $245 right now.

[swag]

My wife just informed me that she wants a GPS for Christmas. I have no clue what to look for or what brands to keep an eye on. The Sears ad had two Magellan models in their BF ad, there was $100.00 difference, is the more expensive model that much better? Any other hints or tips would be helpful. Thanks

[pogiporkchop]

My DH is trying to sell his like new Garmin because he thinks he wants a laptop. Bought it new just a few months ago...

[pogiporkchop]

... and I wouldn't be surprised if he puts one on his BF list for me to get!

[nirvana4all]

Consumer reports just listed the tom tom one ($300) the Magellan Roadmate 2000 ($250) and the Garmin Street Pilot c330 ($300) as their best buys for chirstmas in portable gps were any of these in the sears ad?