8truths Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 So far, Staples is winning the laptop fight. I'm glad to see the dual cores becoming lower-end BF fodder. I wonder if anyone will toss out some sub-$100 single core desktops. One has to think if dual core laptops are going for $350, single core desktops should be finally getting dumped and effectively abolished this holiday season.
masilke Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Compaq AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 15.4" Laptop w/ 1GB, 120GB, DVD Burner $399.00 * This is the PX Special........is it worth it? Is there anything better outthere in this pricerange on BF...........You guys rock!!!I failed to mention that this is taxfree. after all BF Giftcards and coupons are applied it should be $399.00- $90.00 Gift cards- $30.00 off a $250.00 of more purchase Grand Total:$279.00
Lisa1988 Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 I failed to mention that this is taxfree. after all BF Giftcards and coupons are applied it should be $399.00- $90.00 Gift cards- $30.00 off a $250.00 of more purchase Grand Total:$279.00Why is it Taxfree? Why is it $279,00 at the end?
Lisa1988 Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 What store (CC, BB, OD, Staples, OM?) and what type of area (upscale, ghetto, etc)Probably CC, but I'm still waiting for the Walmart items. I probably want the $299,99 Laptop.The area is upscale, I think. I want to go to the Rockville (Maryland) CC store.
masilke Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Why is it Taxfree? Why is it $279,00 at the end?We don't pay taxes on base. The end amout would be after all coupons and giftcards ( Blackfriday) have been applied.
petoola Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Does anyone know if any of these will be available online? Does Staples usually do online as well as in store sales?
H_Hancock Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 There is one thing in particular to pay attention to in looking at the laptops. So far you've all talked about the AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu, the dual-core Pentium, and the AMD Turion X2. What no one has spoken one word about, and is quite important to consider, is battery life and how the various processors will treat that facet of laptop life. Both the Pentium dual core (the one in the Sony) and the Turion X2, in one of the HP/Compaq laptops, are true mobile computer processors. This means they are designed for lower wattage draw when operating, have some power saving enhancements to reduce wattage draw when the computer is at idle, and run cooler. On the other hand, the Athlon 64 X2 cpu found in the HP from Best Buy for the $450 price, is a desktop cpu. This is not uncommon as it's much cheaper to take a desktop cpu and jam it into a laptop. May not be the best option, but it sure is cheaper for the maker. But this means the laptop is going to run hotter, the cpu will use more wattage (power) than a mobile processor, and rarely has power saving enhancements (the desktop cpu...at the time the Athlon 64 X2 was created was rarely looked at a place to conserve power, which is different from today, at least from Intel cpu standpoints. Since there still is no AMD equivalent to the Core-based cpus, the Athlons still draw more power in use.) Just a thing to watch out for. Personally, I'd rather have a mobile processor, either the Intel Pentium dual core (which in the Sony is based on the current Core cpus) or AMD Turion, than a desktop cpu stuck in for cost savings.
kc4braves Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Quote:Originally Posted by masilke Compaq AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 15.4" Laptop w/ 1GB, 120GB, DVD Burner $399.00 * This is the PX Special........is it worth it? Is there anything better outthere in this pricerange on BF...........You guys rock!!! I failed to mention that this is taxfree. after all BF Giftcards and coupons are applied it should be $399.00- $90.00 Gift cards- $30.00 off a $250.00 of more purchase Grand Total:$279.00 Hey,I'm wondering whre you are getting the $90 worth of giftcards and the $30 off $250 purchase. Are these giftcards you already have or is there a special out there for BF? We are military retired/DOD employed in OK and saw the computer for sale but not the other deals you mention. Thanks for the info. Oh and taxfree is great! KAthy
masilke Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Hey,I'm wondering whre you are getting the $90 worth of giftcards and the $30 off $250 purchase. Are these giftcards you already have or is there a special out there for BF? We are military retired/DOD employed in OK and saw the computer for sale but not the other deals you mention. Thanks for the info. Oh and taxfree is great! KAthyOur PX has $20 Gift cards to the first 100 customers on Nov 17th.......Hubby and I = $40.00BF the Px has the same deal........Hubby and I=$40.00$10.oo GC from previous purchase The coupon for the extra $30.00 was in the last Aafes flyer, mailed to us. HTH Silke
Lisa1988 Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 We don't pay taxes on base. The end amout would be after all coupons and giftcards ( Blackfriday) have been applied.Do you mean there are no taxes on BF??Sorry my English is not perfect that's why I have to ask .. sorry.
H_Hancock Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Do you mean there are no taxes on BF??Sorry my English is not perfect that's why I have to ask .. sorry.He means that on military bases, which is the BX/AAFES reference, the military don't pay sales taxes on purchases. One benefit to offset the very real hazards of military life.
markolonghorn Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 I have a question. I'm looking to buy a laptop this BF and was wondering what specs are optimal for HD (720p) video playblack. Is the processor more important or the ram?
petoola Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 I'd go by the processor, only because usually the RAM can be updated.
nirvana4all Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 I'd go by the processor, only because usually the RAM can be updated.totally agree, a piece of ram can be dropped in for under $100, you are mostly stick w/ the processor you put in there. Make sure you get a amd athlon x2, turion, or even a core duo for almost all your needs.
sadinuel Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 I want to buy something fast and powerful, so savvy people out there give me some advice where to go on black Friday?
markolonghorn Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Do you feel the Sony Vaio would have a processor powerful enough for HD viewing or should I look to shell out more money?
snickstx Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Marketing Sheets (Including Specs) for the Sony Laptops at BB. NR110ES (pdf) $399 NR120ES (pdf) $499 plus other stuff in ad. I think this is the Canon Multi-Function in the bundle. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think when the sub-$250 laptop comes out that it was draw some attention from these. I wonder if I'll have to overnight it for one of the Sony laptops?
Fabulous Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 wow, Ft. Rucker Alabama!! My brother went there~~ My nephew lives in Dothan... I used to live in Birmingham! I'm sitting at Best Buy starting at 9PM until 5AM when they start giving out the tickets for the Sony laptop for $399.00 for my boyfriend.....Aren't I the BEST??? LOL
markolonghorn Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Nice find snickstx. I think you are still going to have to wait in line if you want to snag one of the Sonys. If there is a cheap $250 laptop, people will purchase that until supplies run out. Then, people will begin to buy the next cheapest one, which happens to be the Sony. If you're looking for a doorbuster laptop, you're going to have to wait in line (in almost all cases).
nirvana4all Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Do you feel the Sony Vaio would have a processor powerful enough for HD viewing or should I look to shell out more money? I would say the sony is not what I would want to use as my media station, but if you just want to watch a a movie on it, you should be fine (may want a bigger screen). Your problem is that it does not have an HD drive, or a blu-ray drive. So you cant pop in a HD movie or a Blu-ray movie and play it. does that answer you question?
markolonghorn Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 I would say the sony is not what I would want to use as my media station, but if you just want to watch a a movie on it, you should be fine (may want a bigger screen). Your problem is that it does not have an HD drive, or a blu-ray drive. So you cant pop in a HD movie or a Blu-ray movie and play it. does that answer you question?Well, I'm not really looking for HD movie playback as much as downloaded HD files playback. I have an HDTV so I would use the VGA out to view the files. I'm just wondering what processor speed is required for 720p playback. I read somewhere that 2.4GHz is the minimum for HD playback. Does dual core mean times 2 for the processor speed? For example, the Sony says 1.5 Ghz for processor speed. Since its dual core, does that mean its processor speed is 3.0 Ghz? I really don't need that powerful of a computer as any computer would be an upgrade of the computer I have now. I appreciate any advice.
lpingb Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 im think im going to go with the sony $399 from best buy. I cant send my daughter off to school with a compaq...although ive been pretty happy with the desktop
kc4braves Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Our PX has $20 Gift cards to the first 100 customers on Nov 17th.......Hubby and I = $40.00BF the Px has the same deal........Hubby and I=$40.00$10.oo GC from previous purchase The coupon for the extra $30.00 was in the last Aafes flyer, mailed to us. I'm sad I haven't seen teh $30 deal here. I hope I didn't overlook anything. We did get some coupons for $10 off a $100 purchase. $10 alone doesn't help much, though. Hmm. Guess I'd better look around and watch teh mail. Thanks for explaining.
ov3rload Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Does anyone have the full specs for the Compaq (299.99AR) at CC and Toshiba (399.99AR) also at CC?
nirvana4all Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 1.5 dual core does not equate to 3.0, but it is alot more than 1.5 It is probably closer to 2.7 ghz or so. I dont know that much about HD playback from downloaded movies, will post if I find out about it for you.
tjt Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 There is one thing in particular to pay attention to in looking at the laptops. So far you've all talked about the AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu, the dual-core Pentium, and the AMD Turion X2. What no one has spoken one word about, and is quite important to consider, is battery life and how the various processors will treat that facet of laptop life. Both the Pentium dual core (the one in the Sony) and the Turion X2, in one of the HP/Compaq laptops, are true mobile computer processors. This means they are designed for lower wattage draw when operating, have some power saving enhancements to reduce wattage draw when the computer is at idle, and run cooler. On the other hand, the Athlon 64 X2 cpu found in the HP from Best Buy for the $450 price, is a desktop cpu. This is not uncommon as it's much cheaper to take a desktop cpu and jam it into a laptop. May not be the best option, but it sure is cheaper for the maker. But this means the laptop is going to run hotter, the cpu will use more wattage (power) than a mobile processor, and rarely has power saving enhancements (the desktop cpu...at the time the Athlon 64 X2 was created was rarely looked at a place to conserve power, which is different from today, at least from Intel cpu standpoints. Since there still is no AMD equivalent to the Core-based cpus, the Athlons still draw more power in use.) Just a thing to watch out for. Personally, I'd rather have a mobile processor, either the Intel Pentium dual core (which in the Sony is based on the current Core cpus) or AMD Turion, than a desktop cpu stuck in for cost savings. Are all Athlon 64 x 2 destop cpu's? I'm looking at the CC 549.00 HP DV6439nr- Does this have the desktop cpu? What is your take on this one? I want this to last for several years so how important do you think it is to be able to upgrade to 4GB RAM? I couldn't be postive about the ads - is this computer a 2 day sale Friday and Saturday?
Guest ZeroGravity107 Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 What are the specs on the Staples Compaq laptop? What can I upgrade the RAM to? # Intel® Pentium® dual core T2310 (1.4GHz) processor # 1GB installed memory # 80GB Hard drive # Super Multi 8X DVDñR/RW with Double Layer Support # 15.4" WXGA High-Definition BrightView Widescreen (1280 x 800) Display # Weight 6.4lbs # Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium # 1 year warranty for 349 The ram is my main concern.
KrisinTn Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 I have a 14 year old son that is wanting a laptop for Christmas. He will be using it mainly for homework research and will probably to play some games on it as well. (He isn't a heavy gamer) What would be acceptable specs/ and price?
nirvana4all Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Are all Athlon 64 x 2 destop cpu's? I'm looking at the CC 549.00 HP DV6439nr- Does this have the desktop cpu? What is your take on this one? I want this to last for several years so how important do you think it is to be able to upgrade to 4GB RAM? I couldn't be postive about the ads - is this computer a 2 day sale Friday and Saturday? No, not all athlon x2's are desktop cpu's, any more than all intel chips in laptops are desktop cpu's. The cpu in the DV6439nr is a turion (i.e. laptop cpu, not desktop). One important note about AMD cpu's is that they all have a built in feature that cuts the power use when they are not being run hard. This means that when you are just sitting there listening to music, the cpu isn't doing much, so it's amount of power it uses is dropped to save battery. Agreed the laptop cpu's do it better than desktop models, but both utilize it, so you will not have a MASSIVE power/battery life disparity between laptop and desktop AMD cpu's unless you are going to be a heavy user (gamer, video, etc).
nirvana4all Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 a RECONDITIONED pc (refurbished, but likely just a return) laptop deal to look at that may keep you from standing in line at BB for 18 hours and still not getting your laptop. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204853850&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
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