In New York it's in the 40s and will be straight through till after Black Friday. I know when the first people show up, since usually it is me, and I know the people that show up next are on a schedule and can't arrive earlier... so ok, I know if I get there 30 minutes before the time I know they can get there at earliest, I'm good, lol. After that it is usually pretty quiet right up until Thursday morning at about 7am. Since the weather here is a factor, many don't arrive until about 10am - 12 noon... and then the rush begins. Having been doing Black Friday now for about 22 years, and been here since 2004 I have learned the it works here but every area is different. Luckily this area most don't like to fight the cold and often don't arrive until Thursday morning. Just checked all my gear, tested my propane heater, and ready to just load the car. I have already gotten there in the past and waited over 48 hours for the second group to arrive so no point leaving until I feel others may try to beat me, lol