
WM claims only a "few" messages, article claims we don't matter
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 6:09 pm
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 6:20 pm
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 6:55 pm
Actually, I think I have a better message to send them:
Dear Wal-Mart: I am one of those people who do not like your threat against a website that gives you the opportunity to reach literally thousands of potential customers at no cost to your company. Therefore, from this point on, I will buy nothing from your stores at regular price. I will be happy, however, to snap up any loss leaders you advertise that are actually a great buy. But not a pencil, item of clothing, box of detergent, or anything else at your 'everyday low price' will be added to my cart. Just think of me as your own personal local cherry picker helping to lower your profit margins.
Ruth
Count me in on cherry picking. Really thats all I do is cherry pick that day, lol. They know me so well.
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 6:55 pm
Unfortunately, that clown is probably right. There's not enough people that are upset over this AND willing to not shop there to make a difference in their BF sales. WalMart will have millions of shoppers on BF, while I'd be surprised if a few thousand don't shop there because of this. When we all finally get to see their ad in the newspaper insert, many of us will forget about our anger when we see something we really want at a great price.
Not me!!!
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 6:55 pm
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 9:30 pm
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 9:48 pm
I think I'm more bothered by the quotes of Stephen Baker.
Black Friday Web site fans aren't necessarily the best customers of the retailer anyway, Baker said. "They go to cherry pick a couple things really cheap. That's not going to make a lot of money (for retailers) in the short term or even long term." And though they would say otherwise, the Web masters behind those Black Friday sites are probably "overestimating" the importance of their sites in driving customers to stores, he added.
In other words, people are going to shop anyway. So in the long run, even if some customers are displeased, clamping down on its intellectual property is not only Wal-Mart's right, but it likely won't hurt it at the register come the day after Thanksgiving.
"This is America, nothing has an effect on shopping," Baker said. "Truly the biggest impact on Black Friday is the weather."
BF website fans may not necessarily be (in your eyes) the best customers, but they ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS! Whether they cherry pick a couple of things really cheap, or do their entire Christmas shopping at your store, they are STILL YOUR CUSTOMERS. If you don't want them to cherry pick cheap items, don't price them at cherry picking prices.
And yes, I will go shopping anyway. But I will NOT be shopping at WM. And yes, I realize that the few hundred I spend on Black Friday won't hurt your register that day, and even the thousands of dollars I spend throughout the rest of the year also won't hurt your registers, but at least I will have the satisfaction of knowing that none of my hard earned money will be spent where it is obviously not appreciated.
Anyone have a phone number for Stephen Baker?? And what exactly is "vice president of industry analysis for NPD Group"?
Edit to add: Stephen Baker is not associated with WM. But in this article it sure looks like he's speaking for them.
Here's what I found:
About The NPD Group, Inc.
The NPD Group is the leading provider of reliable and comprehensive consumer and retail information for a wide range of industries. Today, more than 1,600 manufacturers, retailers, and service companies rely on NPD to help them drive critical business decisions at the global, national, and local market levels. NPD helps our clients to identify new business opportunities and guide product development, marketing, sales, merchandising, and other functions. Information is available for the following industry sectors: automotive, beauty, commercial technology, consumer technology, entertainment, fashion, food and beverage, foodservice, home, office supplies, software, sports, toys, and wireless. For more information, visit www.npd.com.
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Posted Oct 23, 2007 - 10:10 pm
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 5:38 am
Anyone have a phone number for Stephen Baker?? And what exactly is "vice president of industry analysis for NPD Group"?
Quick question, I wonder if he works for NPD research...it's a survey company that I am sure a few of us probably work for (or should I say used to work for). I don't know if it is the same company or not.
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 6:17 am
Angela,
My eight-year old daughter took a threatening hang-up call on this matter at my home yesterday afternoon. I am absolutely disgusted by what gottadeal is doing.
-j.
This is what I recieved from John Simley this morning. If I beleive it, it makes me really sad. I don't know if anyone here would stoop to that level, I doubt it, but or his first email to claim he cannot see what is going on here, then to blame soneone here for that, I am am stumped. I really hate to think that somehow this could of happened.
wait a minute....what??????
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 6:22 am
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 6:23 am
Do not call any of these people at home!
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 6:27 am
Angela,
My eight-year old daughter took a threatening hang-up call on this matter at my home yesterday afternoon. I am absolutely disgusted by what gottadeal is doing.
-j.
This is what I recieved from John Simley this morning. If I beleive it, it makes me really sad. I don't know if anyone here would stoop to that level, I doubt it, but or his first email to claim he cannot see what is going on here, then to blame soneone here for that, I am am stumped. I really hate to think that somehow this could of happened.
That is very unfortunate and I hope it was no one from Gottadeal. Unfortunately he knew that this was a possibility when he took on this profession and specifically becoming the face (spokesperson) of a multi-national corporation. I have a degree in Public Relations and most of the case studies that we did in college involved death threats that were made to the spokesperson. This was especially prevelent in cases such as the Tylenol Poisionings but when you make yourself the personification of a company that is a possibility. I'm sure that he is well compensated for his trouble and I'm sure it was nothing close to a death threat. Unfortunately that is a hazard of the job.
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Posted Oct 24, 2007 - 6:56 am
That is very unfortunate and I hope it was no one from Gottadeal. Unfortunately he knew that this was a possibility when he took on this profession and specifically becoming the face (spokesperson) of a multi-national corporation. I have a degree in Public Relations and most of the case studies that we did in college involved death threats that were made to the spokesperson. This was especially prevelent in cases such as the Tylenol Poisionings but when you make yourself the personification of a company that is a possibility. I'm sure that he is well compensated for his trouble and I'm sure it was nothing close to a death threat. Unfortunately that is a hazard of the job.
No one should expect these sorts of calls at home... especially as we are not talking about major political decisions being made here. This is unfortunate. I am hopeful he has caller ID or something that can be used to follow up on this.
Knowledge does not dissolve integrity - Conj
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