Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 I had a chat with E-Machines tech live chat and got the official specs of the 189.00 computer. Ryan_GWER4776 says: Okay please hold i check on my resources about your question thank you Ryan_GWER4776 says: I am still researching your issue at this time. I apologize for the wait. Ryan_GWER4776 says: Do you want me to give you the full specifications of the system? Ryan_GWER4776 says: Processor Intel® Celeron® D 355 64-Bit Technology, EM64T 3.33 GHz 533 MHz FSB 256 KB L2 cache 21 Nov 2006 08:44:30 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Memory 512 MB DDR2 (1 - 512 MB module), 533 MHz (PC4200) SDRAM Expandable to 2 GB 21 Nov 2006 08:44:37 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Hard Drive 100 GB 7200 RPM Ultra ATA 21 Nov 2006 08:44:44 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Optical Drive CD-RW/DVD combo drive 48x max write (48 x 32 x 48 x 16) 21 Nov 2006 08:44:51 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Audio 6-Channel (5.1) High Definition Audio 21 Nov 2006 08:44:58 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Video Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (GMA900) Up to 224MB Shared Video Memory PCI-Expess slot available for upgrade 21 Nov 2006 08:45:05 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Modem 56 K ITU V.92 ready fax/modem 21 Nov 2006 08:45:13 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Network 10/100 Mbps integrated Ethernet LAN 21 Nov 2006 08:45:25 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Interfaces Six USB 2.0 ports (two in the front, and four at rear of the case) One VGA port One serial port One parallel port Two PS/2 ports (keyboard and mouse) One RJ-45 port Five audio jacks (two in front and three in rear) 21 Nov 2006 08:45:33 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Add-In Card Slots One PCI-E ×16 One PCI-E ×1 Two PCI conventional 21 Nov 2006 08:45:42 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Bays External: Two 3.5-inch Two 5.25-inch Internal: Two 3.5-inch hard drive bays 21 Nov 2006 08:45:55 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Input Devices Standard multifunction keyboard Two-button wheel mouse 21 Nov 2006 08:46:04 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Speakers Amplified USB powered stereo speakers 21 Nov 2006 08:46:08 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Dimensions(H × W × D) 14.25 × 7.25 × 16.00 inches 21 Nov 2006 08:46:13 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: Weight 22.5 lbs (computer only, no packaging) 21 Nov 2006 08:46:39 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: You can save this specifications by saving chatlog 21 Nov 2006 08:46:57 AM Ryan_GWER4776 says: To save your chat log, please click on the "View Live Log" button at the bottom right side of the chat window. It will open a chat log window. Please use the option to "Save log to disk".
T0mmy Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 The online ad posted on BB's site right now lists this as "emachines Computer Package Intel® Celeron® D 352 Processor, 15" LCD Monitor and Canon Color Printer" I hope that HP's support is right though, because the 355 is a tiny bit faster of a processor (3.33GHz compared to 3.2 GHz.
kimbrown27 Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Ok so this migh be a repeat but here it goes. I went to the BB web site and looked at the flyer for firday and put in my zip code and looked at the flyer for my region, and it does not have the 189.00 emachines computer. So I got to checking arround in other zip codes and for another state next to mine they have it but not in my state they only have the 15.00 gift card for ever 100.00 spent. SO I remember this happened last year that some stores for BB were doing the gift card and others were doing the sales. WATCH out cuz you might not be in a area with the sales you are looking for ! GO AND CHECK IT OUT!
o6blink Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Is this a pretty good computer? I don't know much about computers so I am not sure if I should get this and I want a computer for cheap.
T0mmy Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 It's a perfectly good computer for the average user. I would definitly reccomend getting it.
o6blink Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 How about standing in line? What time should I get there? Weather looks to be cold and rainy. I was thinking about 10 pm. How would I keep like warmer in the cold rain and such.
Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Author Posted November 21, 2006 Not only that but this has an open PCIE slot with upgradeble ddr2 ram up to 2 gigs. I am going to get this and the pcie card they are selling. I will upgrade the power supply put the card in it with 2 gig of good ram plus i have a p4 640 3.2 ghz hyper threading processor with some adding cooling and my wife will have a decent gaming comp.
AaronOnline Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 The official ad on Best Buys website, located HERE states the PC is a Intel Celeron D 352 which is, in fact, a 3.2 Ghz machine. This is listed with the T3522 eMachines code so I am thinking the call center made a mistake. Easy to do since even emachines.com and e4me.com do not have this system listed (at least not that I have seen)If you plan on gaming, definately pick up an after-market graphics card because the provided "media accelerator" really will just not cut it. There are many card available, including one on sale at Best Buy, but, if you want true gaming performance, I would say look to higher end cards and not just sale items.Besides, the sale card ( ATI x1600 Pro 512 MB PCIe ) only has a minimum of 5 in store so it will be more of a fight for them than the pc since you get a ticket for the PC but not the card. Here are the specs according to Best Buy : Intel® Celeron® D processor 352 with Intel® EM64T enhancement, 512MB PC4200 DDR2 memory, DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive, 100GB hard drive and Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 15" flat-panel LCD monitor with fast 16 ms response time, 400:1 contrast ratio and antiglare screen coating Compact PIXMA photo printer with ChromaLife100 technology for long-lasting, borderless 4" x 6" photosHope this helps you all out.
mario44222 Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Hm.. When I visited a best buy store yesterday, I saw about 5 of them on the top shelf and the specs showed that the processor was 3.33 ghz on the box. I confirmed it with the same model #.
Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Author Posted November 21, 2006 The official ad on Best Buys website, located HERE states the PC is a Intel Celeron D 352 which is, in fact, a 3.2 Ghz machine. This is listed with the T3522 eMachines code so I am thinking the call center made a mistake. Easy to do since even emachines.com and e4me.com do not have this system listed (at least not that I have seen)If you plan on gaming, definately pick up an after-market graphics card because the provided "media accelerator" really will just not cut it. There are many card available, including one on sale at Best Buy, but, if you want true gaming performance, I would say look to higher end cards and not just sale items.Besides, the sale card ( ATI x1600 Pro 512 MB PCIe ) only has a minimum of 5 in store so it will be more of a fight for them than the pc since you get a ticket for the PC but not the card. Here are the specs according to Best Buy : Intel® Celeron® D processor 352 with Intel® EM64T enhancement, 512MB PC4200 DDR2 memory, DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive, 100GB hard drive and Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 15" flat-panel LCD monitor with fast 16 ms response time, 400:1 contrast ratio and antiglare screen coating Compact PIXMA photo printer with ChromaLife100 technology for long-lasting, borderless 4" x 6" photosHope this helps you all out. You also should be careful telling people to get to high end of a video card for this machine. For one they are very power hungry and unless you upgrade the power supply it may not boot at all or be very unstable. Not to mention these cases are not the best and you run the risk of cooling issues.
T0mmy Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 I'd be willing to bet the power supply will handle it fine. As for cooling, the X1600 has active, not passive cooling, so I think they'll be fine in that regard as well. Anyone that's upgrading the card is very capable of swapping power supplies in a worst case scenario. And a 160mm fan or two wouldn't be hard to add as well. I'm unsure how these cases are cooled myself. I just don't want to scare people away form upgrading this when in reality, chances are it'll take all those upgrades fine.
Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Author Posted November 21, 2006 I'd be willing to bet the power supply will handle it fine. As for cooling, the X1600 has active, not passive cooling, so I think they'll be fine in that regard as well. Anyone that's upgrading the card is very capable of swapping power supplies in a worst case scenario. And a 160mm fan or two wouldn't be hard to add as well. I'm unsure how these cases are cooled myself. I just don't want to scare people away form upgrading this when in reality, chances are it'll take all those upgrades fine.Here is a few reviews from newegg Pros: great cheap graphics card runs great Cons: it tends to overheat like crazy make sure if buying this you have plenty of cooling fans and a well ventelated case. Other Thoughts: good graphics card needs to be cooled a lot very cheap but still becomes extremely hot probably goin to upgrade it in the next few months Excellent card for the $$, ATI offers the absolute BEST support available, new drivers released monthly. Cons: heat tends to be a problem for this card *IF* you dont have adequate cooling in your PC. I have had no problems running two of these cards in crossfire, side by side, just keep my case fans turned up :)
rjfisher72 Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Anyone have any luck calling a Best Buy store to get an estimate on items that are described as "quantities limited to warehouse stock". I spoke with a rep. over the phone and she said the TV I was asking about could have 1 in the warehouse 5 or 10, no way to know until Friday morning. Anyone know any tricks on getting that info. from a rep. at BB?
AaronOnline Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 The eMachine cases are really not that bad. I, personally, am running off a eMachines T2341 right now overclocked to about 2.6 Ghz with an additional harddrive and an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card (which creates a buttload of heat) and have only had moderate issues. Nothing serious and easily correctable by simply buying another fan for the case (yes, most emachine cases have available areas for an extra fan or two) I run my machine without the side panel anyways since I am usually changing this, adding that, pulling this... I am a geek and love seeing how far I can push my machine. As for the processor speed, there is definately a conflict as the Celeron D 352 chip is only a 3.2 Ghz chip ( intel website info here ) but is VERY easily overclocked to 4+ with the right motherboard. Of course, most will run with the stock motherboard so I wouldn't go above 3.6 Ghz or so and that is ONLY if you know what you are doing. The power supply should be just fine for running this system under 99.9% of circumstances so do not let it keep you from picking up this PC. True, it is not a "powerhouse" but, to be honest, if you wanted a "powerhouse" PC you would just build your own and not deal with store bough package deals anyways.
T0mmy Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 I haven't bought a PC in 9+ years. I built my first when I started college and never looked back. I can't turn this down for <$200 though. I haven't decided what it's role is going to be yet, but I'm sticking the 15" lcd in the garage for a PC/Tv out there, and I'll use the printer as my main printer unless it's a photo sized printer. I never have good printers at home since I'm an engineer at a print controller company and can print anything I want on pretty much any size paper. I think I may make this my new HTPC, but I really want to know if it has an open AGP slot. I'll buy it either way, but I'd like to have that slot open for my ATI all in wonder.
Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Author Posted November 21, 2006 I for one am with you. I never wanted to scare anyone from this comp. But we do have to be careful how we word things as to not let people think they can run out and put power house stuff in here and just run like that. I build my own comps and my wife has a compaq and I am tired of hearing how come She always gets my left overs. I will purchase this and throw my p4 640 in it with ati card and 2 gig ocz ram with a new power supply and that will fix her. What she does not know is I already ordered my Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562QX6700
Cwilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Author Posted November 21, 2006 From the sounds of it No agp slots
Guest CS.Dean Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 I was in a BB about 3 hours ago and they stated that they EXACTLY 10 available. I have seen the monitor ( its regularly in the $185 range). Its actually a good computer for most people. HEy it loos like 9 pm start time for us
AaronOnline Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 No AGP slot in this PC... it is the new PCI Express (PCIe) format which is supposed to be a better graphics solution than AGP or PCI... although people still debate the truthfullness in that theory but, well, there ya have it. I am kinda stuck where you are... have an AGP ATI Radeon 9800 Pro right now but that is ok, I will just upgrade to a new PCIe card.
o6blink Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 Anybody score the computer? I definitely did! Got there at 7 pm.. was #30 in line. By the time bestbuy opened there were 800+ people in line. Mass amounts of people came between 1 and 2 am. I just laughed at them. Theres only one or two best buys in the state so that explains the 800 people. Computers works like a charm and monitor is great! Can't wait til next year :)
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