EddyOhio

While I agree that most plasma tvs are not great for gaming, my 42" JVC plasma is awesome for watching movies. We've had it for a couple years and the colors are so rich and the details are amazing. I haven't even got to watch something in HD yet, but I just got a HD player so I'm anxious to see the full potential of this tv. The upper end models of plasma tvs are great. We never go to the cinemas anymore. We'd rather watch movies at home. We can see the details so much better. But, if you're going to be leaving it on a lot it will use more power then LCD. It's the price you pay for the vibrance.

Unfortunately, yes. Certain states have higher prices.

The only Gateway model I know of that's a 6232 is not a laptop, it's a 21" LCD monitor.

I don't think its ethical or fair to line jump, but I also don't believe its ethical or fair for some on here to say ebayers are black marketers. That is judging a whole group of businesses and individuals based on ones biased belief. Some individual ebay members are handicap and doing business from home has been a blessing. I've done ebay and its a lot of work. Staying up all hours, packing items, labeling, shipping, running around for supplies, keeping track of budgets, expenses, inventory and keeping up with good customer service. Ebay has allowed the individual to directly compete with the big stores (who also use ebay). There's no difference between paying someone to stand in line for you to get a much sought after item (so you can be at home) then to pay for the item on ebay. Either way, you're paying for convenience because you either don't have the time to stand in line or because you simply prefer to stay at home. Yes, its unethical to cut in line (we've all been taught that since childhood). But, if anyone feels in their heart that it is also unethical to pay someone to stand in line for you or for someone to sell their purchase to you thru an auction site then you should not do it. But, please let's not slam ebay members. Many of us have full time jobs, but that isn't enough in this tough economic time (rising utilities, fuel, food...). My wife and I work very hard and would love to keep a Wii for ourselves, but we would rather sell one to help pay for necessary things. If you're a mother that's upset you haven't found a Wii for your kid, please be grateful you have money to spend on a game and thankful you've been blessed with a child. Have some understanding for those of us in a different monetary situation. Yes, I pay plenty of taxes too!

Do you or anyone else report what you sell at your garage sale or yard sale to the IRS? If not, that would also be considered the Black Market as stated. For you've used the item therefore reaping the price you paid and then making money back from its sale. Did the buyer pay sales tax on that purchase? We all can go bananas with the discussion of taxes and if we pay enough. The extreme waste of where some of my taxes goes... well we won't go there (too painful). Because sales tax has already been paid on an item, the IRS doesn't really go after second hand sales such as garage sales. Yes, Ebay is a different animal entirely and many of its members do report their PROFIT to the IRS. Only the profit is subject to tax. After all expenses are paid for the online business the profit reported is small but still helpful. Income tax should be done away with and replaced with a national sales tax or VAT, so that those with more income, and therefore more buying power, pay more of the share. MIT did a study on this and concluded it would spread the tax burden more fairly then our present day tax nightmare. Sorry, to get off topic. The TAX word brought it out.

Forgive me. I should have stated "Most of the complainers..." instead of "All". As far as values, I agree that some don't have the same set of values as we do. Some believe line jumping is wrong (such as myself) while others don't care. And, how much a person values the doorbuster deals will affect how early they get there to get in line. If I value a certain item enough I will want to be one of the first in line. Selling what belongs to you (if you aquired it legally) makes it perfectly okay to sell it if you want. It doesn't necessarily become a moral issue unless one is cheating in order to aquire the item. Line jumping is cheating.

I completely agree! Best Buy management was extremely careful this year about NOT discouraging people from getting whatever tickets they wanted and can't ask (and really don't care) if you want it for yourself or are you going to sell it on ebay. The early bird catches the worm, that's just the way it is. Those that complain are those who aren't willing and desperate enough to wait longer than others in the front. I wasn't anywhere near the front this year and I still got what I wanted. Those that were there earlier (some were there as early as Wednesday) have the right (by law) to do with the products what they want. If they purchase it and want to sell it on ebay there's nothing wrong with that and there will never be a Best Buy policy against it. Lines were never like this until ebay came along. The stores are'nt loosing anything, the products are sold just the same. But, I do not like it when people save places in line so there 10 friends came jump in the tent and only have to wait a few hours, and then they get the tickets. That is line jumping! Next year I will be printing out line position numbers with Best Buy's management approval to hand out these to the first 30 people. If someone says, "Can I have 5 of those papers to hold for my friends who will be here later?" I'll say nope. First come first served. Of course, I'll have to be there super early. Oh yea, I want to video the whole thing too so I can prove who's jumping the line. I did this at ToysRUs one year with the managers blessing and it eliminated ALL the rift raff. It was great and everyone in line undertood and got along fine.

It doesn't bother me to see someone in front of me sell their ticket (or buy the item and sell it on ebay), after all, they waited in line longer than I did so why should I complain. But, what does bother me is seeing a Best Buy off duty employee hold a spot in line for 5 of his buddies to join him half way thru the night (while 25 of us were there since Thanksgiving at noon) and then have all his buddies get avery single ticket that was passed out with no intention of buying anything. I saw them later inside the store (in the back) with a stack of tickets selling them. Again, if they had waited in line as long as the rest of us it wouldn't have been so cruel, but to do what they did was unbelievable. Did the police care, no! But, I did see the employee look as if he found out he might not have a job now. Someone must have told the manager. But, the damage was already done. I noticed that this year's police were very soft in their dealings with the line. Last year the place was swarming with security. This year was different.

CC is being very bad about price matching. If it's an item that you could get at another store cheaper and that store no longer has it in stock, CC won't PM. I tried.

Anyone know the difference between this model and the one BB will have as a door buster?

I had many experiences last year where they did not want me to use the same cc. So my wife had one and i had a different one. They don't care if your a family as long as there are different cc accounts then they can't say anything. This year they are not as strict. last year some items were "one per household" so we had to use different cards (one has a PO box for it and the other our home so we are safe either way. This year I've not yet experienced the same thing. Last year the launch of Wii and PS3 made for stricter rules. Now, the stores aren't doing well and it looks like it will be a record no show for even good deals. People aren't spending this year on average. We're in retail and marketing and this is going to be a tough year (except for lower discount type store like Walmart that seem to do well during tight economic times). Macy's and such aren't so lucky. The ultra high end stores will do okay.