Edit, sorry rebate expired on the 16th from buy.com. Bummer, I had a $15 coupon that I was going to use.
However, ZipZoomFly has a $40 rebate making it $160 ar.
I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on a Creative Zen 30gb from Buy.com. Last time I checked it was $199.99-$40 rebate making it $160.
My brother owns one and it's definately bulkier than all the new players. He still sticks it in his pocket though. I'm interested in it for use in a car instead of a cd player. Looks like I'll probably be picking it up because these BF deals are pretty skimpy, and anything under 20gb just isn't enough storage for me.