barc
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Personally I think it is wrong. It should be FIRST COME FIRST SERVE!!! If you were the 21st person on line for a limit 20 item and then the people in front took them to sell even though they had no intention of buying it but to sell the ticket to someone behind you, you can't tell me you'd be ok with that. The 21st person on line arrives in most cases within a few hours of the first and long before the store opens. If they are there for a specific item and the people in front of them sell the ticket they are entitled to if it weren't for greed, you are ruining Black Friday for them. Not all of us here can be there in time to get our choice of anything we want. Luckily we aren't all in the same area or chances are I wouldn't be in the top 5 every year like I am at my store. Before you go selling tickets, just think if you were the one standing in line all night for an item only to see the ticket you should have gotten being sold to someone behind you. If you have no problem with that, go ahead and sell your ticket, but what goes around comes around, and maybe next year you'll be #21 on line and I hope it happens to you.
I'd be kicking myself for being such a slacker that I couldn't be the first one in line so I can guarantee that I'd get what I wanted (but wasn't entitled to)
. If you can't be there before the folks in front of you, too bad!!!!! I think it's unfair that I actually have priorities that keep me at home most of Thanksgiving eating with my family and giving thanks for what I've received in life and those "lowlife" college kids can stay there all day being first in line 
(that was sarcasm btw). If you want something, work for it or pay for it. If you aren't willing to work harder or pay more than someone else, they deserve it, not you. -
Every year this comes up, and the posters split between those who say "we earned the tickets and we can do as we please" and those who say "we waited in line longer than the buyers and should get first dibs on any extra tickets". Like years past I say, "get your rumps up there earlier than the sellers if you want a guaranty of availability." You weren't willing to camp out as long, so too bad, you risk not getting an item. Someone else was willing to work harder than you (i.e. stand in line longer) to get something. That's what this country's economic system used to be all about. If you have to have something, get there on Thursday morning before 10 am. Then you'll get it. Saving places (anthing more than 1 for 1 replacement) and line cutting is another matter and should be met with public flogging
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2007 was the last year for CompUSA and 2008 was the last year for Circuit City.
With Best Buy being the only national electronics chain left for BF deals, how do you think this will affect tech deals on BF?
I don't know how their deals will be affected, but if their current trend of crappy customer service is any indication of what's to come, it isn't going to be a net positive. BB has really gone downhill this year. Thanks gosh we have the Internet to buy from. I only go to BB to check out models and then I buy them over the 'net.
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As you can see from the comments, there is no "right" answer. If you're going to do this, prep the folks behind you. If they see you with you DD when they arrive and you explain it to them, they'll either say OK or not. If they OK, then come back before the store opens. If they aren't cool with it, then find your DD after the store opens and pay for it then. 80% will be OK with it, but you never know. Anyhoo, base what you do on the folks behind you in line that will be affected by it, not what the people in this forum think.
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Last year a friend of my wife's was tripped during the rush at our local Walmart. She ended up getting $7K from the store after getting a lawyer involved. This year, that store had 4 police officers working the line and handed out tickets for door busters. Hit them where it hurts in their profit and they'll come around. I hope the victim's family sues the store for megabucks. The mob mentality is truely a scary thing to witness.
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what does Best Buy got that people are in line right now for? Their are no good tv or laptops deals.
Nothing for most of us. But perhaps there's something that a few folks feel the need to get. I'm not even going to BB this year. Very bad ad. I'm hitting Micheals, then Lowes, and finally Costco. I'll be out by 5:30 and home by 10. Finally going to get some sleep this year.
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What rule is being broken? I'll camp out like crazy for something but won't hide stuff, but I'm curious as to where this notion of hiding items is wrong or breaking a rule.
Not "wrong", more like sneaky or deceptive. Selling tickets is overt and at least the folks doing it paid the price of standing in line to get them. Hiding items is taking the lazy way out. Plus, that is really hosing the folks who stood in line longer than the hider. Really distasteful in my book. But that's just me
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This is absolutely INSANE! There is nothing at Wal Mart on BF that you can't get now for a couple of hundred dollars more and most analysts expect prices to drop further after BF if sales tank. I have to believe that this is more of a social experiment or Wal Mart PR stunt than people wanting to buy something.
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I never go to GameStop but, looking at the add, I must add it to my list. There are several things my kids are asking for on sale there.
What time do they usually open on Black Friday?
The ad says stores open at 7:00 am.
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the buy 2 get 1 free on used games is usually only thing we go in for
Yep, I'll swing by for that. But it's good until Sunday, so no rush to get there on BF.
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my hopes for a 42 inch 1080 p tv have been destroyed. looks like this is the worst BF in years. absolutely no incetinve to go to any store. even the video games are pathetic. why buy a ps3 with those little incentives when walmart had a free 100 gift card recently and it wasnt BF
Go to Costco for the TV. Their deals are already better than most the BF stuff and their return policy is incredible. You can get better PS3 deals now on the web. I've got to believe that BB must be doing something more, their deals are so crummy.
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Thank goodness I don't have to worry about standing in line at BB. I can almost get most of these deals at Costco now:eyepoppin The w/d deal at sears is the best thing going right now for BF.
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I don't think I'll ever by a Blu-ray player. Digital delivery is the future.
Not with the cable companies starting to limit downloads. That'll kill digital delivery (and lots of other things).
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A few comments on this thread....
Best Buy has loss prevention staged throughout the line, anyone caught selling a ticket will be arrested and lose their tickets.
BB can confiscate the tickets, but they can't have arrested if it is not illegal to resell them. I don't know where you live, but I can't image that it is illegal in most parts of the US to resell tickets that are worth hundreds of dollars for one-forth or even one-tenth of that. I"ve camped out at BB the last 4 years and seen tickets resold the past two years and have never seen anyone from BB or the cops who were standing right there in the front of the store do anything about it. Has anyone on this board ever seen anyone arrested for this?
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Let´s suppose this scenario: Best buy will have an early bird of 10 42" LCD TV at $399. You arrive Wednesday at 4:00 pm and there are already ten people in line, so you are number eleven. You decide continue at line.
What will you feel if one hour before best buy open the doors, customer number 10 sell his ticket to someone who arrived 5 minutes ago?
I feel that I should have gotten there earlier and that next year, if there's something I want, I get there earlier. And if I'm not willing to make the sacrifice to be 10 in line, then that's on me, not the guys in front of me who were willing to do it. Even if they got there 2 minutes before me because I missed the traffic light, it's still on me to make sure I get there early enough to get what I want. The stores don't owe me anything and the guys in front of me in line don't owe me anything. I don't sell tickets, but I could not care less about the folks in front of me who do. As Brad said, this is no different than buying the item and reselling it for a profit.
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That 46" Sharp 1080p LCD is a tempting price, and of course, the W&D is tremendous if you need both. 20% savings on all Craftsman bench tools and the router bit set for 75% off are good deals if you need tools.
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I just did some research because I plan on selling some tickets, as I am spending my time(=money?) to get these tickets. In Michigan, there is a law against scalping, but it is designed for sporting events, and prevents reselling tickets for more than their FACE VALUE. As BB tickets have no monetary value, they are exempt from this law, I believe. Correct me if I am wrong.
It would seem the face value of the ticket is the amount of money that the ticket saves you. Since you can not sell it for that amount (the door buster prices vs. the regular price, which no one will buy it for), how can that be considered scalping? It is no different than going in, buying the item, and then reselling it for an extra $50 to the same person you sell the ticket to for $50, except you don't have to fight the crowd to buy it in the store, they do. I wouldn't worry about scapling charges.
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I work less than two blocks from this law office. I'll go over there and make faces at them as they leave for the day.
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But to that person they may not see it as cutting in line, to them they are paying to have a spot held for them.
No matter if a person thinks what they do is right there will always be people who think its wrong. So in reality if its ok to sell tickets then it should be ok to hold a place in line for money, if its ok to have someone in your party in line while the rest is not physically in the line the entire time only to have everyone join before store opening or tickets being passed out then its ok to pay someone to hold a place in line, is that any different?
I have always said selling of tickets just shows the stores people will pay more, therefore drives up the BF prices year after year. So if someone thinks its ok to sell tickets dont complain about sale prices not being low enough.
Here's the difference IMO. Someone gives up their time to get a good place in line. What they do with that place is up to them, as long as the trade off is one-for-one. There is a long stretch between trading places with someone who paid you to stand there and letting a whole bunch of people in front of you. 1-1, not 1 - many. You have a lot of "ifs" in your statement, but there is reasonable and there is unreasonable. I think it is reasonable to say, YES, there is a difference between selling tickets that you earned and trying to hold a place in line for a party of people. I suppose if I tried, I could "if" my way from not holding the door for someone to global nuclear annilation
The stores will always have loss leaders to get folks out and in the stores. They don't offer that many because they are losing money on them. I don't think that the stores will increase the price of these loss leaders because they could have sold more. They can almost always sell more of these.
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So bottom line, make sure you get in front of me this year!
Well said. If you absolutely need something, get there earlier than everyone else. Otherwise, those in front should be free to do what they want with their tickets. They earned them.
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... Just because other people are doing it doesn't it make it right...
Or wrong.
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I got mine at Sears. $1299 plus the 10% price match difference. I walked out the door for $1230. I had to argue with the manager and I finally wore him down. Course, this was at 5:00 am this morning.
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...he got all of his vouchers confiscated and they removed him from the property and told him not to come back.
darn that must have sucked for him, waiting all that time and spending two nights in the cold and getting absolutely nothing out of it. I would have killed myself If i were him!
Serves him right for shooting his mouth off. He should have quietly taken his tickets and sold them. Bragging to the masses, what a tool. Still, I don't think it's suicide worthy.
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We have a CC right next to BB. The line at BB is 4 times that of CC by 5:00am. In fact, the late arrivals see the lines at BB and then gravitate to CC because they'll have a shot at actually getting something. But, with CC actually having a better ad this year, that might change. Unless BB has a supplemental, there is absolutely nothing attractive for me in their ad.
. If you can't be there before the folks in front of you, too bad!!!!! I think it's unfair that I actually have priorities that keep me at home most of Thanksgiving eating with my family and giving thanks for what I've received in life and those "lowlife" college kids can stay there all day being first in line 
(that was sarcasm btw). If you want something, work for it or pay for it. If you aren't willing to work harder or pay more than someone else, they deserve it, not you.
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Agreed. Nothing worth making a trek in there for. Keeping my powder dry for BF and/or the Saturday Specials at Wal Mart. Those are actually something to get excited about. So far, from what I've seen, I'll probably be getting in line at Office Max. Who woulda thought