I thinkt his could of happened at any store. I didn't see security at any of them that could of handled this kind of crowd. I am not blaming walmart on this one it was the customers. I think it is sad that a store would have to hire security to guarantee safety instead of discounting items.true it was walmarts fault for not taking adequate protection for its workers and customers. it is not like walmart was a nobody store that did not know better. The "rolled"back at the cost of security and that is unacceptable

Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 11:34 am
I thinkt his could of happened at any store. I didn't see security at any of them that could of handled this kind of crowd. I am not blaming walmart on this one it was the customers. I think it is sad that a store would have to hire security to guarantee safety instead of discounting items.
I agree...
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 11:49 am
This could NOT have happened at just any store. It DOES happen at walmart every year (to one extent or another). Walmart knows what happens each year... and they encourage it. While I believe that people need to be held accountable for their actions and their choices, walmart bears a portion of that responsibility for knowingly establishing an environment that is conducive to that type of behavior.I thinkt his could of happened at any store. I didn't see security at any of them that could of handled this kind of crowd. I am not blaming walmart on this one it was the customers. I think it is sad that a store would have to hire security to guarantee safety instead of discounting items.
I know that Walmart is a "dash-n-grab" Black Friday event and that is why I avoid them. But there are many, even here at this forum, who actually enjoy the mad rush, the running through the store, the elbowing out the "competition" to grab that desired item.
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 12:18 pm
i don't get how not one shopper stopped...i'd easily stop to help a guy up that fell if I saw him laying there
To all those who trampled this poor guy and those who did nothing to help him I hope there is a special place in [email protected]@l for them. I'm sorry if this sounds rough but there is NO excuse in the world for what happened to this guy.
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 12:59 pm
How could it not have happend at any store. Not sure I understand. I guess I just don;t agree. To me this was the people who broke the door down to get in fault not Wal marts. Sorry Just my opinion. Wal Mart was doing a sale just like all the other stores. People chose to be rude and act crazy.This could NOT have happened at just any store. It DOES happen at walmart every year (to one extent or another). Walmart knows what happens each year... and they encourage it. While I believe that people need to be held accountable for their actions and their choices, walmart bears a portion of that responsibility for knowingly establishing an environment that is conducive to that type of behavior.
I know that Walmart is a "dash-n-grab" Black Friday event and that is why I avoid them. But there are many, even here at this forum, who actually enjoy the mad rush, the running through the store, the elbowing out the "competition" to grab that desired item.
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 1:01 pm
Oh, they know. They know it WORKS for what they intend. They want the crowds. They want the mad dash of people running through the store. They want the pushing and shoving, elbowing and crowding. Employees stand by photograph and video-record the event.That is just insane, I can't even imagine what this poor guys family is going through. It seems every year that something horrible happens at a Walmart, when are they going to realize that their system just doesn't work for BF.
They don't want people to die or get seriously hurt, but they certainly don't mind people getting jostled and the occasional person getting knocked down.
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 1:07 pm
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 1:11 pm
How could it not have happend at any store. Not sure I understand. I guess I just don;t agree. To me this was the people who broke the door down to get in fault not Wal marts. Sorry Just my opinion. Wal Mart was doing a sale just like all the other stores. People chose to be rude and act crazy.
Walmart is a bigger store than most, and draws a bigger crowd than most. They KNOW there will be hundreds upon hundreds of people standing outside their doors on Black Friday. To not have developed a method of controlling that crowd by now is not just stupid, it's criminal.
All it takes is a couple of people to start pushing from the back, then those getting pushed forward push those in front of them, and those people push those in front of them, until people can't NOT push, because they are being crushed themselves. The people who started it are just plain rude, but I still blame Walmart for not having adequate crowd control.
I hope the family of the man who died presses charges, and I hope Walmart loses.
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Posted Nov 28, 2008 - 1:41 pm
You dismissed the situation at walmart as if it was equally possible at any other store. It is absolutely NOT equally possible at any other store. Violence at walmart stores on Black Friday are part of the Black Friday "tradition". Do you think that it is coincidence that these situations happen more frequently at walmart than at other stores?How could it not have happend at any store. Not sure I understand. I guess I just don;t agree. To me this was the people who broke the door down to get in fault not Wal marts. Sorry Just my opinion. Wal Mart was doing a sale just like all the other stores. People chose to be rude and act crazy.
Every Best Buy that I've gone to on Black Friday is orderly but busy. That is because they have a voucher system for high-demand low-quantity items. They organize consumers into orderly lines. Walmart does none of those things. Walmart ENCOURAGES dash-n-grab. There are people who go to walmart specifically BECAUSE it is a dash-n-grab. Target has a modified dash-n-grab that is somewhere between an orderly voucher system and dash-n-grab free-for-all. I've NEVER experienced any mayhem at a Target or Best Buy on Black Friday. EVERY walmart that I've visited on Black Friday was chaotic.
Disagree if you wish. But Walmart does NOT do a sale just like all the other stores.
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Edited by lesliepear, Nov 28, 2008 - 1:51 pm.
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