It does only come with the basic lens (18-55 mm) so nothing special there I guess. I definitely agree about the bag, its probably crappy. I am definitely looking at something a little easier to learn on so maybe the D5100 isn't the best idea anyway. I'll have to do some pricing on the T3i to see if I can afford it. If its too much to swing for Christmas, I'll wait until our anniversary in March. I don't want to rush into this purchase. I will definitely make sure he learns how to use it properly. I am not spending this much money on a camera for him to use it in auto. I am actually a little leary of buying him a DSLR anyway as I am worried that he will be in over his head (he doesn't have a whole lot of patience). I was considering as a second option, getting him a full body point and shoot and see if that works for him. I just don't know if the picture quality will be very good. I know it won't be as good as a DSLR. Anyway, I thank you very much for your help. It's greatly appreciated. I think I have a lot more research and thinking to do.