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#1 bigjimslade  OFFLINE  

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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 9:23 am

I am starting this thread for posting of weather forecasts for your area for BF.

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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 9:25 am

La Nina predicted to bring warmer winter weather to Dallas-Fort Worth area

06:06 AM CDT on Thursday, October 18, 2007

By MICHAEL E. YOUNG / The Dallas Morning News
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The start of winter sits two months off, but forecasters already are offering a peek into North Texas' winter: notably warmer and a little drier than usual.

Ken Reeves, director of forecasting operations at AccuWeather, said a developing La Nina pattern in the Pacific Ocean should mean a warmer winter for much of the U.S., with temperatures 2 to 4 degrees higher than usual across Texas. AccuWeather is a leading private forecasting service based in State College, Pa.

A few degrees warmer might not seem like much. But for many struggling to pay their utility bills, it can make a big difference.

"Any time people need to run the heat for longer periods of time, that adds to the kilowatt hours," said Patrick Patey, a spokesman for the Salvation Army in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

"There's such a big group of people out there, the working poor, who come to us in a crisis. And for a lot of them, a big utility bill can be a crisis.

"So anything that helps them cut corners and cut costs is a good thing."

Mr. Reeves said La Nina is one of the signals the forecasting service looks at, "but it's combined with a warmer phase in the Atlantic, and the combination of the two points to a relatively mild forecast for a large chunk of the nation."

Only the Pacific Northwest is looking cooler, he said.

Mr. Reeves likened the development of the current La Nina to that in the winter of 1998-99, when average January temperatures at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport were more than 5 degrees above normal, and February's high temperatures were 8.4 degrees higher.

The average high temperature in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that February was 67.3 degrees, with 13 days in the 70s.

AccuWeather's forecast lines up with the current thinking of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Climate Prediction Center. But in the competitive world of weather forecasting, "we kind of go a step further," Mr. Reeves said.

"What [NOAA] tells you is the probability of the weather being warmer or cooler," he said — and in North Texas, the probability of warmer weather is 50 percent. "But we try to indicate the magnitude of warmer weather.

"And we believe that across Texas, temperatures will generally be 2 to 4 degrees above average."

La Nina, a stream of cold water slicing through the central Pacific, is the engine for that.

"La Nina is here, with a weak to moderate event likely to persist through the winter," Michael Halpert, head of forecast operations at the Climate Prediction Center, said last week.

But AccuWeather's forecasters say the La Nina effect could be more intense than that.

"There's some feeling here it could be at a strong level," Mr. Reeves said. "Potentially, it could get to be a Top 5 La Nina."

And the lower the ocean temperatures in the central Pacific, he said, the more likely it is that the U.S. will experience classic La Nina weather — relatively warm and dry across the southern tier and cooler and wet in the Northwest and parts of the North.

But this is Texas, and we're still talking about winter.

"That doesn't mean there won't be some intrusions of cold air," Mr. Reeves said. "The one thing about this pattern is the cold air isn't that far away. Western and central Canada will probably be colder than normal, so you can have a surge of cold air invade the U.S.

"But we don't believe the cold will be as prolonged in most places east of the Rockies."

The other thing about a La Nina pattern is rainfall, with the Southeast and Southwest drier than usual — a troubling forecast in both areas that have been hit hard by drought.

With rainfall in some areas of the Southeast more than 20 inches below normal, a winter forecast with precipitation probabilities down sharply could be devastating.

"Given this pattern, it's very possible that large chunks of Alabama, parts of Georgia and northern Florida could see less than 50 percent of normal moisture," Mr. Reeves said.

"But in Texas, traditionally, the decline in moisture isn't that great."

Skiers, though, could find ample snow this winter, if they're willing to travel a little farther.

"The area across the Cascades, the northern Rockies, maybe the Wasatch, even the Sierras should have good snow," Mr. Reeves said. "The farther north you go, the better off you'll be."


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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 9:57 am

Im certified with the National Weather Service and we are seeing a warmer winter than usual. Just FYI.

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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 9:59 am

Im certified with the National Weather Service and we are seeing a warmer winter than usual. Just FYI.


I'm okay with that for BF. But I want a White Xmas!!!!
I cant remember the last time it snowed christmas eve. :(

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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 10:17 am

Im ok with snow, just not ice/black ice. I had that last year and scared the crap out of me. Of course I was still out at midnight! lol

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Posted Oct 18, 2007 - 10:23 am

Im certified with the National Weather Service and we are seeing a warmer winter than usual. Just FYI.


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Posted Oct 26, 2007 - 1:12 pm

Very good idea!

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Posted Oct 26, 2007 - 7:03 pm

Rain, sleet, snow, or cold weather wouldn't stop me or most Chicagoans. Although it does slow down the roads and shopping time.

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Posted Oct 28, 2007 - 9:13 am

You Skywarn?


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Posted Oct 28, 2007 - 9:14 am

I'm okay with that for BF. But I want a White Xmas!!!!
I cant remember the last time it snowed christmas eve. :(


I agree! I want a dang WHITE CHRITMAS! I can't remember the last time we had a white christmas here in Louisville.

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Posted Oct 28, 2007 - 10:15 am

I agree! I want a dang WHITE CHRITMAS! I can't remember the last time we had a white christmas here in Louisville.


Yeah I was just thinking the other day it has been a while since we've had a white christmas here in Louisville. I don't like the snow and ice much but I wouldn't mind it for a couple days just for christmas, but after that no more snow PLEASE! lol

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Posted Oct 28, 2007 - 11:57 am

I predict warm weather that day, temps from mid 60-s to mid 80-s...ohh, I live in florida, that is the weather that entire month. Well that was easy.
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Posted Oct 28, 2007 - 5:41 pm

I'm okay with that for BF. But I want a White Xmas!!!!
I cant remember the last time it snowed christmas eve. :(



Don't count on that. La Nina's typically have very few coastals coming up from the south. They also rarely have a 50/50 low to lock in the cold air, so when a storm does approach it usually brings the warm air at the upper levels, quickly funelling to the lower ground levels. Expect storms this year to be mainly freezing rain quickly changing to plain old rain for anywhere in VA east of the mountains. DC/Balt areas will see about 50-75% of their normal snowfall at best with this pattern.

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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 6:52 am

Someone told me the Almanac says that the Northeast will get pummeled with snow this year...I am in MA

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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 8:14 am

I predict warm weather that day, temps from mid 60-s to mid 80-s...ohh, I live in florida, that is the weather that entire month. Well that was easy.


Oh you just hush:D I will be cold. I have got to move south. I say that every year.

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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 1:44 pm

Come on down, just dont line up IN FRONT of me at my best buy. I will save you a spot behind me.
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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 7:01 pm

I agree! I want a dang WHITE CHRITMAS! I can't remember the last time we had a white christmas here in Louisville.


Hey, I'm in SW Indiana, and we go lots of Christmases without snow, BUT do you remember Christmas 2004??? WHAT A WHOPPER!!! We had 20+ inches at Christmas that year. I love snow! :fluffy: Didn't you get quite a bit then too? :confused:

p.s. for you weather forecasters, was that an el nino or la nino year?

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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 7:23 pm

Oh you just hush:D I will be cold. I have got to move south. I say that every year.


Move south - I live in Louisianna and I always go in short sleeves on Black Friday. makes my trips easier not being all bundled up!! :smirk:

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Posted Oct 30, 2007 - 7:54 pm

Hey, I'm in SW Indiana, and we go lots of Christmases without snow, BUT do you remember Christmas 2004??? WHAT A WHOPPER!!! We had 20+ inches at Christmas that year. I love snow! :fluffy: Didn't you get quite a bit then too? :confused:

p.s. for you weather forecasters, was that an el nino or la nino year?


I live in S. Illinois, and we got about 15 inches that year! It was awesome!!
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Posted Oct 31, 2007 - 11:04 am

It's always nice in Hawaii. I think only once in the last 5 years we had some passing showers to deal with. Can usually just line up in shorts and a t shirt.

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Posted Oct 31, 2007 - 11:51 am

I live in Mid MI.. Chances are it will be bitter cold and wet. I will post the forcast when I can findone that far out..

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Posted Oct 31, 2007 - 12:00 pm

Hey, I'm in SW Indiana, and we go lots of Christmases without snow, BUT do you remember Christmas 2004??? WHAT A WHOPPER!!! We had 20+ inches at Christmas that year. I love snow! :fluffy: Didn't you get quite a bit then too? :confused:

p.s. for you weather forecasters, was that an el nino or la nino year?


Yeah, it got so bad that year that we had to go straight home after visiting my in-laws for Christmas moring/afternoon. We couldn't stop at my parents place at all.

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Posted Oct 31, 2007 - 12:52 pm

Its 77 here today..... but who knows in 4 weeks.

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Posted Oct 31, 2007 - 1:16 pm

Hey, I'm in SW Indiana, and we go lots of Christmases without snow, BUT do you remember Christmas 2004??? WHAT A WHOPPER!!! We had 20+ inches at Christmas that year.


I live in South, coastal Texas and WE had snow that year on Christmas! The most I've ever seen! People were building snow men on the beach.

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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 1:27 pm

Okay, we can start seeing our weather for the night before BF. :)
Here's mine...

Mostly Sunny High 56°F
Precip 20%

Partly Cloudy Overnight Low 32°F
Precip 20%
Wind: WNW 5 mph
:gdfrozen: Gonna be cold outside!

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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 4:24 pm

Thurs. Nov 22 Partly Cloudy Hi 79 Low 65 :D 20% chance of rain

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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 5:15 pm

Thanksgiving Day forecast is 70 and partly cloudy.

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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 5:20 pm

there a site accueather.com that gives 15 day out looks............ it puts baltimore md at Friday, Nov 23 High: 43 °F RealFeel®: 37 °F Colder with clouds limiting sun Low: 32 °F RealFeel®: 33 °F Clearing

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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 6:04 pm

I predict warm weather that day, temps from mid 60-s to mid 80-s...ohh, I live in florida, that is the weather that entire month. Well that was easy.


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Posted Nov 13, 2007 - 6:32 pm

Was in the low teens when I camped out from midnight to 5am two years ago at CC for the laptop! That was a long 5 hours... Right now lows are getting down to the mid to low 20's. But I'm ready with my battery powered socks this year! :gdchatter:




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