* Official Black Friday LAPTOP Thread * [Archive]

Brad

11-9-2005, 3:42 PM

We are seeing so many new threads about the various laptops that we are going to have one central thread for discussion. This post will be updated shortly with information about each model available, and you can discuss them as much as you'd like in this thread :)

Thanks to Da Puff (http://forums.gottadeal.com/member.php?u=27130) for this $600 or less laptop comparison (http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/laptops.htm) chart.

CompUSA
Acer AMD Turion 64 15.4" Laptop - $699.99
Compaq Presario AMD Sempron Laptop - $549.99 AR *
Gateway 1.7GHz Centrino Laptop w/ 14" UltraBrite - $1099.99 AR
Sony VAIO Intel Centrino Laptop - $1149.99 AR *
Apple iBook G4 Notebook - $999.99
HP Media Center Notebook w/ 17" LCD - $2049.99 AR
HP Pavillion AMD Turion Lance Armstrong Notebook - $1299.99
HP Pavillion Notebook w/ 1.6GHz Centrino - $1049.99 AR
HP Pavillion Notebook w/ 1.8GHz Centrino - $1399.99 AR
Sony VAIO 1.8GHz Centrino Notebook - $1599.99 AR
Toshiba Satellite 17" 1.7GHz Centrino Notebook - $1379.99 AR
Toshiba Satellite Notebook w/ 1.8GHz Centrino - $1229.99 AR

Costco
HP Laptop - $100 off

WalMart
HP Pavillion ze2308wm Notebook Computer - $398.00 (No Rebates) *

VonnegutFan

11-9-2005, 3:54 PM

Whaaa? What is this Costco deal? Is this new?

missyjane

11-9-2005, 3:58 PM

Good Idea. Thanks for being on top of the game.

And by the way, Costco?

kmbrly

11-9-2005, 4:02 PM

Thanks Brad!!!

Costco
HP Laptop - $100 off

WalMart
HP Pavillion ze2308wm Notebook Computer - $398.00 (No Rebates) *

Added: In a perfect world, wouldn't it be great if we could admatch the $100 off from Costco at Walmart on the $398 laptop??

RossMAN

11-9-2005, 4:15 PM

How soon we forget :2wiggle:

CostCo BF thread (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=16594)

i-bystander

11-9-2005, 4:22 PM

Now you know you're going to have to come up with the "Official BF Desktop Thread" too - right? ;)

kmbrly

11-9-2005, 4:24 PM

How soon we forget :2wiggle:

CostCo BF thread (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=16594)

See what happens when I skip a few posts?

Brad

11-9-2005, 4:24 PM

Now you know you're going to have to come up with the "Official BF Desktop Thread" too - right? ;)
And Digicam, and HDTV, and... but one is better than 10 different ones for each.

i-bystander

11-9-2005, 4:32 PM

And Digicam, and HDTV, and... but one is better than 10 different ones for each. LOL - what are you waiting for? Make it happen already! Oh, and sticky them while you're at it. :p

JonathanM

11-9-2005, 4:32 PM

Don't forget that CostCo has a six month return policy on all computers.

Brad

11-9-2005, 4:36 PM

LOL - what are you waiting for? Make it happen already! Oh, and sticky them while you're at it. :p
Are you volunteering? :P You create them I'll sticky them, lol.

I'll get to them later tonight. Busy now linking the CompUSA ad items.

i-bystander

11-9-2005, 4:42 PM

Are you volunteering? :P You create them I'll sticky them, lol.

I'll get to them later tonight. Busy now linking the CompUSA ad items. LOL - me and my big mouth! I'll take care of it.

Note to Brad:
We need to have a "Select All" and a "Clear All" feature for the Shopping List.

Brad

11-9-2005, 4:44 PM

Note to Brad:
We need to have a "Select All" and a "Clear All" feature for the Shopping List.
http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=18430 :trampolin

i-bystander

11-9-2005, 4:51 PM

http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=18430 :trampolin Click on the running smiley.

:lolrun: (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showpost.php?p=141213&postcount=18)

too_n_v_us

11-9-2005, 7:53 PM

Just so everyone knows........the laptop for $398 at Wal-Mart.......each store will only have about 12!!!!!!!

burmafrd

11-9-2005, 7:57 PM

So the current status is: Walmart has the better deal, but all indications are that each store will only have a dozen. CompUSA has that stupid AOL fine print. Best Buy has not yet come up with anything. And no other store has stepped up either. Have I missed anything?

missyjane

11-9-2005, 8:05 PM

too n v us - will the laptop be available prior to BF? If yes can you buy it and then return and rebuy that day?

burmafrd

11-9-2005, 8:13 PM

All indications are that this is strictly a BF buy; it will be specifically labeled so that no one can try that.

TheDude

11-9-2005, 8:20 PM

Where did you guys get the info about walmart?

too_n_v_us

11-9-2005, 8:22 PM

I'm a Store Manager for a Wal-Mart Supercenter here in the midwest......does anyone have any questions??????

missyjane

11-9-2005, 8:25 PM

I'm a Store Manager for a Wal-Mart Supercenter here in the midwest......does anyone have any questions??????

I've already asked one and sent a private message.

jipy

11-9-2005, 8:33 PM

Every Blackfriday the cheap laptops are one of the things I camp out of stores. makes a good gift for cousins and other kids...

however, this year I have been disappointed so far, except the unusual Walmart deal.

I was even more disappointed after seeing the rumored best buy ads. The CompUSA ads on first inspection seemed too good to be true then when i zoomed in on them..... 12 month AOL membership!!!! awwww... .crap...

anyway, still hoping for some good deals, otherwise Walmart would be my camping ground this year and considering the rumor that only 12 of them would be there, I 'll better get in line before midnight...

QUESTION TO TOO_N_V_US:

would Walmart give out coupons for high value/low stock items to people in queue like my local Bestbuy did last year...

thanks

RossMAN

11-9-2005, 8:39 PM

QUESTION TO TOO_N_V_US:

would Walmart give out coupons for high value/low stock items to people in queue like my local Bestbuy did last year...

thanks
Most larger retail stores (Walmart and BB in particular) hand out tickets to the first 50 or so people in line. So technically the laptop can SELL OUT before the doors even open. My advice? Just like I've been saying all along get in line EARLY.

too_n_v_us

11-9-2005, 8:42 PM

I am a Store Manager for a $140 million Wal-Mart Supercenter in the Midwest. I have rather enjoyed all of these threads regarding everyones ads for Black Friday. I have made a few posts myself. The buzz regarding Wal-Marts ad has been the $398 HP laptop. Here is what everyone needs to know: Each store will only have 10-20 laptops to sell that one day. So if you want one you will have to pray and show up as early as possible.

THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE OF THOSE LAPTOPS FOR THE $398 PRICE.........

Go to your local Wal-Mart who currently carries the model that will be featured in the Black Friday ad, because not all do. You will see that the current price is around $648-$699, put the laptop on layaway TODAY!! Then on Black Friday you go back into the same Wal-Mart go to the layaway counter and CANCEL that layaway....as soon as you get your money back tell the clerk you have decided to purchase that laptop after all and it will ring for $398 instead of the $648-$699 because the UPC for the laptop in Wal-Marts system will ring for the Black Friday AD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zgamer

11-9-2005, 8:49 PM

I've seen this done before too_n_v_us. I like the special "wm" version of the laptop. For a cheap laptop, yes it is. Will you get it, if you get there at 2am. when too_n_v_us shows up at 4:15 he'll be laughing his ass off;) Personally as good as some of those deals are I'd rather wait around at home to see what shows up online as the online sales get better....ie tigerdirect and others which offer $199 systems sometimes.

Mike

11-9-2005, 8:56 PM

I was hoping to see a Pentium M around $550-$600 this year. Doesn't look like that is going to happen.

huseboy

11-9-2005, 9:10 PM

thx for the info on the laptops. :)

Mike

11-9-2005, 9:13 PM

There is another thread for desktops in the same section. Stock won't be known until your in line or unless the ad states something like "Minimum 10 per store"

sperdue

11-9-2005, 10:02 PM

:crossfing Oh how I hope Circuit city comes through with a laptop with a dvd-rw!!! :crossfing

praveenml

11-9-2005, 10:05 PM

Mike

11-9-2005, 10:08 PM

skar

11-9-2005, 10:12 PM

What do you all think about the toshiba laptop at bb? Is it a early bird deal? How many should each store have?

Mike

11-9-2005, 10:15 PM

Hopefully someone that works at BB will come in to tell us how many each store will get. I will guess that each store will have 10-20 depending on the market in your area.

This will be an early bird deal for sure. You need to get there way early. Im thinking 1am - 2am.

lauralee

11-9-2005, 11:15 PM

I also sent you a PM about the laptops. Thanks in advance, as my Walmart does not have that laptop on the shelf right now.

jipy

11-9-2005, 11:22 PM

Toshiba Celeron M 370 Notebook w/ 256MB/40GB/WiFi/Combo Drive - $379.9 - from BB.

Any idea how many of them are on sale and when will BB open on BF. I will be on line standing first at any cost.

-P-

I would buy the AMD Semparon Laptop anyday over the Celeron M laptop. About Toshiba and HP, its a different thing and I am not too sure about either. But, Semparon would win over Celeron any day. Check out Anandtech.com for some comparative tests and reviews about both processors

Candy

11-10-2005, 9:29 AM

The only issue I have with your adive on getting a laptop now and putting on layaway...is not all Walmarts even allow cancellations on BF. I know this is true in my area..I have worked at Walmart and shopped and tried to cancel on bf....it all depends on your local walmart...so please.....call the Walmart YOU plan on visiting on BF to see their layaway policy.

disneytati

11-10-2005, 1:53 PM

PhaserBait

11-10-2005, 2:19 PM

I need at least 2 laptops... actually I needed 4, but I doubt I'll be able to get 4... It's just me and my aunt. Can one person get 2 tickets at BB and Walmart? But we couldn't buy them, right? What if we get tickets at BB, get in line, pay for 1, get in line again and pay for the other?

At BB, they will only give one ticket to each person. You could try to ask other people who are there for the desktop or a TV to get a ticket and give it to you. Then you should be able to make several purchases. I don't know for sure if WM will give out tickets, though.

WELUVKDS79

11-10-2005, 4:46 PM

Does anybody do any favors for students?? Like special financing, discounts, etc??? My laptop is on its last leg and I am working on my Masters and need a new one....:(

RossMAN

11-10-2005, 5:04 PM

Does anybody do any favors for students?? Like special financing, discounts, etc??? My laptop is on its last leg and I am working on my Masters and need a new one....:(
Dell.com offers affordable laptops and they offer financing options :)

disneytati

11-10-2005, 5:05 PM

At BB, they will only give one ticket to each person. You could try to ask other people who are there for the desktop or a TV to get a ticket and give it to you. Then you should be able to make several purchases. I don't know for sure if WM will give out tickets, though.

My aunt went to this Walmart 2 years ago, and they didn't give tickets, you had to grab the items yourself. But we never know if they're gonna change their policy.

BLKFRI

11-10-2005, 6:57 PM

I need at least 2 laptops... actually I needed 4, but I doubt I'll be able to get 4... It's just me and my aunt. Can one person get 2 tickets at BB and Walmart? But we couldn't buy them, right? What if we get tickets at BB, get in line, pay for 1, get in line again and pay for the other?

Last year we (2 of us) bought 4 desktops at BB. While waiting in line, we talked to the peeps around us. We got those that didn't want the computer to get and give us the ticket. The tickets are good til 11 A.M. So we paid for 1 then took it to the mobile home we brought, then went back in line and bought the other. But at our BB alot of peeps were selling the tickets and peeps were buying for $50.

rjjan

11-10-2005, 7:06 PM

10-20 seems low. I think they will have more at my store .

scenicphoto

11-10-2005, 7:25 PM

I just registered today on GottaDeal.Com and was looking for someone to answer a question for me.

My granddaughter is needing a Laptop for college soon and we want to get her one for Christmas, and I was told to look on GottaDeal. What do you think, and can you give me some hints as well as some advise on using this system?

Thanks in advance and I hope someone will contact me soon.

snickstx

11-10-2005, 9:16 PM

snickstx

11-10-2005, 9:50 PM

Just checked out Toshiba this (http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=HHO&coid=-30395&sel=0&rcid=-26367&ccid=1291021) looks pretty close. I am glad because I want at least 15" screen. Just in case anybody is interested.

Mike

11-10-2005, 9:54 PM

:crossfing Oh how I hope Circuit city comes through with a laptop with a dvd-rw!!! :crossfing

Circuit City's "doorbuster" laptop will not have a dvd burner. Sorry.

WELUVKDS79

11-10-2005, 10:03 PM

The WAlmart one is decent but, I need more memory so I am still looking. I called DEll but, they don't have special financing for students. I may just buy one when my student loan check comes in January.

shortycory

11-10-2005, 11:04 PM

thanx for all the post ppl.

sperdue

11-10-2005, 11:53 PM

Circuit City's "doorbuster" laptop will not have a dvd burner. Sorry.
That bums me out! I've tried all the links from here to dell. Even w/the discount it's out of my price range.
My only hope is Santa to leave me one!
:holiday02

clips2save

11-11-2005, 12:32 AM

I posted this elsewhere but thought I would post here also. Question? If there are only going to be 12 - 15 say per store, then obviously there is no need for a pallet. So will they be in the electronics department or located elsewhere? Just wondering what your thoughts are.

Mike

11-11-2005, 1:07 AM

Every store, as far as I know, will hand out vouchers for "doorbuster" items before the store even opens. There will be no "mad dash" towards the laptop section as all the laptops will have been taken before they open the doors.

Mike

11-11-2005, 1:19 AM

If you guys/gals see the BB ad scans, minimum 10 per store. Your store could have more then 10, but I would strategize so that you know you can get one of the 10 if you want it.

sperdue

11-11-2005, 1:36 AM

The best buy scan shows a the gateway celeron w/dvd-rw for $579 no rebates. I think this will work! Any thoughts?

89MustangGX

11-11-2005, 1:38 AM

Link for the detailed specs of the BB Toshiba Laptop. I'm kinda leaning towards this one now. Only negative I can find is possibly short battery life.

Thoughts?

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_outFrm.jsp?moid=1124515&ct=DS&soid=1163250&BV_SessionID=@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>@<hidden>&BV_EngineID=cccfaddgeieleelcgfkceghdgngdgnn.0

EDIT: I noticed they seem to have a battery available that is double the size if that becomes a problem. Also -- for memory it will take up to 2gb, and MAY have a slot free, so no problem there upgrading memory, though you may have to get rid of what's in there.

Daisimae

11-11-2005, 1:40 AM

Battery life doesn't bother me. I need the laptop for work, at home. It will never leave the laptop cart and stay permanently plugged in. Thanks for the link.

RossMAN

11-11-2005, 2:54 AM

Battery life doesn't bother me. I need the laptop for work, at home. It will never leave the laptop cart and stay permanently plugged in. Thanks for the link.
I'm the same although my Dell Inspiron 700m laptop offers an impressive 5 hours of battery life.

Just make sure to remove the battery if you plan on using A/C power for an extended period of time.

djmaine

11-11-2005, 5:21 AM

At any cost? I think the cost will be your sleep. :) Depending on how far away it is, I would drive by at midnight and gauge the line then if there is one. If there is, get in it. If not, maybe swign back by 1am or 2.

I would guess each store will have 10-20.

I got in line at my local Best Buy at 12:30 last year...I was FOURTH

They came out around 4:30am to give the tickets. By then we already had 200 people in line.

I'm thinking I will be line at our Wal-Mart this year.

Kingfalcon

11-11-2005, 5:24 AM

In regards to the Walmart laptop:
From what I can tell, this laptop is essentially a model from the ze2000z line. If you believe that to be the case, then here are some reviews (on the ze2000z) which may indicate how the WalMart lappy will perform:
http://www.hardwareranking.com/link.php?lid=1067

http://forum.notebookreview.com/show....php?p=1156098

I hope that helps someone.

rjjan

11-11-2005, 6:20 AM

Hey is everyone opening at 5 or just wal-mart. Called the local store today and they said there getting 35 laptops!!!!!!But only 15 desktops.

scenicphoto

11-11-2005, 7:38 AM

I love this website.

I appreciate the help already received from some of you in PM's as well as this Thread. Keep the tips coming!

:usflag: Happy Veterans Day to all you Veterans out there. My :howdy: is off to you. :usflag:

reznaissance

11-11-2005, 9:19 AM

:) Hi All, I'm a newbie to this wonderful gottadeal world. Thanks for all your info. I was wondering if I call Walmart or BB would they let just a regular customer know how many laptops will be shipped/received at their store or is that "classified information"/

snickstx

11-11-2005, 9:33 AM

The BB Toshiba Laptop looks pretty much the same as the one I posted yesterday. I did a little bit more looking, expecially since the listed price is out the door plus tax, no rebates. I found 4 different rebates.

$100 for the laptop itself
$60 for Toshiba case
$60 for Netgear 802.11g router
$100 for Epson CX4200 printer

I have not read all the fine print(any volunteers?) as I am at work, and I am sure the processors will try to find a way to invalid some of these but it's worth a try. Go here (http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=HHO&coid=-30395&sel=0&rcid=-26367&ccid=1291021) for the laptop then click on more for the rebate details. Also, if anybody can make out a model number in the ad, I would appreciate it, I'm blind.

aperryman

11-11-2005, 9:54 AM

They actually told you? Did you talk to someone in electronics or what???

jminer1

11-11-2005, 9:55 AM

snickstx

11-11-2005, 9:58 AM

The model number is L25-S1192

Thanks, well I guess it was all for naught. I can't find that model number on the website. I knew they would figure out a way to keep from giving these things away.

astrong

11-11-2005, 11:09 AM

What happened to the Toshiba Celeron laptop($399) at CompUsa? I am not seeing it in the ad.

astrong

11-11-2005, 11:14 AM

What happened to the Toshiba Celeron laptop($399) at CompUSA? I am not seeing it in the ad...

snickstx

11-11-2005, 11:31 AM

What happened to the Toshiba Celeron laptop($399) at CompUSA? I am not seeing it in the ad...

IIRC, that never came to fruition, it was part of the rumour stage. Also, most of their prices are after huge rebates.

albrandwood

11-11-2005, 11:55 AM

What happened to the Toshiba Celeron laptop($399) at CompUSA? I am not seeing it in the ad...

It is there ... but the $399 price is after the $250 GiftCard for signing up for AOL for a year (which costs $287 dialup or $180+ broadband)

@<hidden>

snickstx

11-11-2005, 12:23 PM

It is there ... but the $399 price is after the $250 GiftCard for signing up for AOL for a year (which costs $287 dialup or $180+ broadband)

@<hidden>

I've already said I'm blind, I checked the ad again but I couldn't find it. I saw the $299 Compaq but not the $399 Toshiba. What page are you seeing it on?

sand

11-11-2005, 12:34 PM

How do we know where these sale items will be in the store when the doors open??

TheDude

11-11-2005, 12:59 PM

How do we know where these sale items will be in the store when the doors open??

Hi,
Most of the stores I know (BB, CC) will give out coupons(more like a piece of paper) to people standing in-line before they open the door, and after they open you probably will have to go to a counter of some sort to pickup the laptop.

They won't have them just laying around.

ckostyun

11-11-2005, 1:41 PM

New here, thanks for all the great info!

How do we know where these sale items will be in the store when the doors open??

BB usually has all the computers behind the "Tech Bench" where they do the computer repairs. You take your "coupon" there and turn it in for whichever product(s) you want. This way there isn't the stampede that you hear about at other stores.

As far as other sale items, DVDs etc, I usually scout the store for general areas on Wed before BF, that usually gives me an idea of where I want to head.

Good Luck everyone!

OKCowgirl

11-11-2005, 1:58 PM

adster

11-11-2005, 2:15 PM

I posted this over at FW, but wanted to spread it overe here...

After looking really hard at the scans and at the Gateway website, I was able to figure out the model number of the Gateway laptop. Gateway MX6030.

Here are the specs:
http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/6000Series/5378sp3.shtml

There is nothing about battery life in there, and I couldn't find it, however the Toshiba is supposedly only 1.5 hrs. The thing that disappoints me about the Gateway laptop is the video chipset, it's only and Intel Extreme 2 Graphics set with 32 megs of memory, while the Toshiba is an ATI X200 Radeon chipset with up to 128 megs of memory.

Also, the memory. The Gateway uses PC2700 DDR memory while the Toshiba uses PC4200 DDR memory. So you have to ask yourself, is the $200 worth the DVDR and the extra 20 gigs of harddrive space knowing the speed and quality of the RAM and video chipset is lower?

sperdue

11-11-2005, 2:32 PM

malachitecat

11-11-2005, 3:53 PM

I'm new to this site and new to BF shopping. I am debating if I should get in line for the $398 laptop at WM or if I should just get the IC Power CN5560 that I have on layway. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

ssawe

11-11-2005, 4:51 PM

The BB store i went to (Santana Row , SJ)was new and very few people knew about it. Most people crowd at the Milpitas store.
The first guy in the line was a "group" of about 10 ppl who had come at 10pm ( the previous night).
Tickets were handed out, and each ticket had a number, my ticket number was i think 29 and there were about 50ppl in the line before me not all took the laptops (hence i did get one thankfully).
The store had only about 33 pieces . . Some people picked the tickets and never bought the laptops ( I met them the same evening at microcenter). From what i heard is that if ppl do not show up to buy the ticketed items, then those items are sold openely at 11 am.

However please note.
Each laptop box (at thepurchase counter) had a ticket number.
The laptop boxes were "opened" by BB ppl, when asked, the store guys told us that they had to do something before selling the laptops. (They may have removed something out of the box/machine, it does not make sense to sell something cheap and add something too).

The laptop has been fantastic all the while. The authorized service center chagned the motherboard for free to fix a problem, this was done while within the 1yr warranty period (thought towards the end of the warranty period).

What do you all think about the toshiba laptop at bb? Is it a early bird deal? How many should each store have?

ssawe

11-11-2005, 4:56 PM

BB guys, go out thru the line with a store map explaining what is where ( ususually).
I've already said I'm blind, I checked the ad again but I couldn't find it. I saw the $299 Compaq but not the $399 Toshiba. What page are you seeing it on?

saluken

11-11-2005, 5:20 PM

Toshiba Celeron M 370 Notebook w/ 256MB/40GB/WiFi/Combo Drive - $379.9 - from BB.

Any idea how many of them are on sale and when will BB open on BF. I will be on line standing first at any cost.

-P-

BB opens at 5 am this year, an hour earlier. They're also doing instant rebates. I wonder if this is to draw some from the Walmart crowd. There is a min. of 10 laptops per store.

Also, which is better, the Walmart HP laptop for $399 or the BB toshiba for $379?

praveenml

11-11-2005, 5:47 PM

BB opens at 5 am this year, an hour earlier. They're also doing instant rebates. I wonder if this is to draw some from the Walmart crowd. There is a min. of 10 laptops per store.

Also, which is better, the Walmart HP laptop for $399 or the BB toshiba for $379?

I think according to the reviews Walmart HP laptop is better since it has a sempron processor which is far much better than Intel Celeron.

DaleRider

11-11-2005, 6:01 PM

I think according to the reviews Walmart HP laptop is better since it has a sempron processor which is far much better than Intel Celeron.

On a side note, the HP/Compaq ownership experience overall, at least from a survey conducted by PC World (take this with as much salt as deemed necessary) is the poorest among those owning any laptop products. The HP/Compaq product is the lowest ranked notebook in their survey, surprisingly eMachines is tops. Second in the list is Apple, Dell comes in 5th after Medion (3rd) and Alienware (4th).

Link to PC Worlds's survey where readers rate the laptop manufacturers. (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,118514,pg,3,00.asp)

Just some more food for thought..........

RossMAN

11-11-2005, 6:08 PM

Okay ... anyone have the specs on this computer at Wal-mart??
HP Pavillion ze2308wm Notebook Computer

I have searched on HP to find it ... but ... as you already know ... IT'S NOT THERE !!

Thank

PM me ... keep loosing my message on here. hehehe

HP laptops specs can be found here:
http://forums.gottadeal.com/showpost.php?p=115661&postcount=75

Please let me know if you have any further questions :)

Ross

I would buy the Toshiba @<hidden> BB over the HP @<hidden> WM

msbranh

11-11-2005, 6:10 PM

You will have to take a chance on the laptops. The avg store will get 25 with some getting up to 100. This item will also be on the web site that morning but will sell out just as fast. Good hunting!

SelenaV

11-11-2005, 6:40 PM

Does the IBM Thinkpad have a good reputation?
Selena

PooterMan

11-11-2005, 6:56 PM

Does the IBM Thinkpad have a good reputation?
Selena

The IBM thinkpad have been pretty solid for me in the past (I've purchased approximately 50 in the last 3-4 years for our company). However, that being said, the thinkpad division is now no longer IBM, it was sold off to Lenovo(China based company). At least for a while I doubt you will see any change, but long term I'm still reserving judgement. I've been picking up a few other laptops when we need one or two just to see whats out there. One thing I will just offer for an individual...BUY EXTENDED WARRANTIES! Most laptops can even be purchased with accidental damage insurance. Laptops are expensive to repair or replace, an additional 100$ per year is well worth it when your daughter going off to college puts the laptop on top of the car and drives away with it still there (This happened to a coworker within the last month).

Happy Trails
PooterMan

Da Puff

11-11-2005, 9:08 PM

I made a comparison table for $600 or less laptops. Check it out here:

http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/laptops.htm

Let me know if other information or more laptops should be added.

I'd like either the Toshiba from Best Buy or the HP from Walmart. Which do you think is better?

89MustangGX

11-11-2005, 9:20 PM

I noticed from the product specs on the BB Toshiba that it "starts at 5.88 pounds depending on configuration." Not sure if that's solid enough for you to include in your chart or not.

As for which to choose -- I thought I was set on the HP, even though I'm not the biggest fan of HP/Compaq. Then I saw the Toshiba come through from BB with similar specs and I was sold. I really like the Toshiba laptops. I think I'd still go after it even if the price was equal or a little more than the HP.

workhaute

11-11-2005, 9:26 PM

Last year my bb said they had a dozen toshiba laptops , yet they had at least 50 units
I want to get another this year for my big bro.

hong2221

11-11-2005, 10:12 PM

sperdue

11-11-2005, 10:19 PM

RossMAN

11-11-2005, 10:22 PM

I'm getting paranoid that I won't get the laptop. Any suggestions to make sure I can get the laptop for sure? I'm pretty sure I'm waking up at 4:20am to get this laptop. And try to go out the night before to best buy asking for tickets. But besides that, what else should I do?
You should be paranoid because I can guarantee unless you live in a SMALL CITY, you will be 300th in line at 4:20 AM.

Why are you waiting so long to get in line? The laptops will be SOLD OUT before the doors even open. If you don't have a ticket = no laptop for you.

Dural

11-11-2005, 10:52 PM

DragonSlayer1500

11-11-2005, 10:53 PM

I'm getting paranoid that I won't get the laptop. Any suggestions to make sure I can get the laptop for sure? I'm pretty sure I'm waking up at 4:20am to get this laptop. And try to go out the night before to best buy asking for tickets. But besides that, what else should I do?

No need to be paranoid. I can tell you for a fact that if you don't even wake up til 4:20am, you won't be getting a laptop. You have to be in line MUUUUCH earlier than that.

89MustangGX

11-12-2005, 12:56 AM

I'm going with the Toshiba for my mom, the Celeron M should be faster and have better battery life than the Sempron M plus I'd prefer Toshiba over HP. 1.5 hours seems too low for the Toshiba, does it only have a four cell battery? With my 9300 and eight cell battery that has a 17" lcd, faster Pentium M and GeforceGo 6800 I can get two hours with my lcd at the brightness I use when it is plugged in.

It does only have a 4-cell battery, but in the Toshiba spec sheet they also list an 8-cell battery for it. I seems to me that if you buy the other battery you would get 3 hours out of it -- maybe more?

Kingfalcon

11-12-2005, 1:23 AM

It does only have a 4-cell battery, but in the Toshiba spec sheet they also list an 8-cell battery for it. I seems to me that if you buy the other battery you would get 3 hours out of it -- maybe more?
From what I can tell, you can get a 12-cell for the HP, so take that into consideration as well.

richett1

11-12-2005, 1:39 AM

No need to be paranoid. I can tell you for a fact that if you don't even wake up til 4:20am, you won't be getting a laptop. You have to be in line MUUUUCH earlier than that.

No expert on this, but my wife bought the emachine desktop from BestBuy, Indianapolis last year and got in line at 6:30am with 400 people in front of her. They handed out vouchers.

They had $500 laptop vouchers left at CompUSA and I was in line at 6:00am (200 ppl in front of me). Except a stick of 256k ram I got everything I went for (bunch of wireless stuff and a 128M PCI Video card). My point is simply that those 200 people and I were in line for vastly different things. Maybe everyone saying get in line at 12:00am just thought the laptop vouchers were gone by 4:30am. Tons of the AOL PCs were left even through out the next week.

I'll give one caution though. Some people thought the guys at CompUSA were just handing out donuts/coffee and didn't know there were LapTop vouchers.

Anyone else get donuts and coffee? That sure is nice at 6:00 am.

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 1:54 AM

richett1,

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us :)

samir

11-12-2005, 3:03 AM

OK first was HP vs. Dell now HP vs. Toshiba. What is next?

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:04 AM

OK first was HP vs. Dell now HP vs. Toshiba. What is next?
We'll know after we see Circuit City's ad :)

sperdue

11-12-2005, 3:35 AM

Does anyone know if the Gateway having a 1.4 Celeron will effect the ripping speed when burning a dvd?

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:42 AM

Does anyone know if the Gateway having a 1.4 Celeron will effect the ripping speed when burning a dvd?
Yes it will as DVD ripping and burning is very CPU intensive.

My Dell Inspiron 700m laptop has a Pentium-M 1.6 GHz and I have no problems burning DVD's.

Grannynannies

11-12-2005, 8:33 AM

+THe only thing that stinks about Comp USA laptop sales is that AOL $250 gift offer with a 12 month commitment!:mad:

DragonSlayer1500

11-12-2005, 10:00 AM

No expert on this, but my wife bought the emachine desktop from BestBuy, Indianapolis last year and got in line at 6:30am with 400 people in front of her. They handed out vouchers.

They had $500 laptop vouchers left at CompUSA and I was in line at 6:00am (200 ppl in front of me). Except a stick of 256k ram I got everything I went for (bunch of wireless stuff and a 128M PCI Video card). My point is simply that those 200 people and I were in line for vastly different things. Maybe everyone saying get in line at 12:00am just thought the laptop vouchers were gone by 4:30am. Tons of the AOL PCs were left even through out the next week.

I'll give one caution though. Some people thought the guys at CompUSA were just handing out donuts/coffee and didn't know there were LapTop vouchers.

Anyone else get donuts and coffee? That sure is nice at 6:00 am.

Kokomo, Best Buy, we were in line around 5ish and all the E-Machines vouchers were LONG gone. Must have more hardcore shoppers in Kokomo than in Indy.

dlcdmk

11-12-2005, 10:10 AM

QUESTION TO TOO_N_V_US:

What will the specifications of the Walmart laptop be? Like processor, CD drive, graphics card, etc?

zgamer

11-12-2005, 11:10 AM

Kokomo, Best Buy, we were in line around 5ish and all the E-Machines vouchers were LONG gone. Must have more hardcore shoppers in Kokomo than in Indy.

I've been to two diff. best buy's in the milwaukee area in the last couple years...doors open at 6am. If you goto the one in the nicer side of town get there by 4:45 or you won't get anything, showed up at the one out by mayfair a little after 5:30 and there were like 30 people infront of me. It depends on the size of the area and what the community is like;)

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 1:27 PM

QUESTION TO TOO_N_V_US:

What will the specifications of the Walmart laptop be? Like processor, CD drive, graphics card, etc?
The spes can be found here (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showpost.php?p=115661&postcount=75)

jpeyton

11-12-2005, 2:01 PM

The OP should add the Staples Acer laptop, which I think is easily one of the best laptop deals on BF. The 8-Cell Lithium Ion battery caught my eye as a standout feature; that typically means battery life is in the 3+ hour range.

$449 with no rebates means you're paying a little extra, but would you rather brave the crowds at Staples or at WalMart?

storm0327

11-12-2005, 2:03 PM

Can we get the specs for the walmart laptop? Cheap is not always better!
Thanks

jason

11-12-2005, 2:14 PM

does anyone know how many laptops each walmart will have?

jason

11-12-2005, 2:17 PM

is there any way to turn an internal dvd burner into an external one
i have heard of turning an internal hard drive into an external but i don't know if it works the same way or what?

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 2:49 PM

storm0327 - HP laptop specs can be found here (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showpost.php?p=115661&postcount=75)

jason - Yes you can turn an internal DVD Burner into an external. All you need is an external enclosure (http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=92), FireWire is recommended over USB.

LuvJoyLunaDawg

11-12-2005, 3:26 PM

Okay, I do BF every year, but I've never gotten a "big" ticket item before this year. I *need* the Best Buy laptop. So my question is, when do I get in line to guarantee that I will get one? I'm thinking about 11pm? Also, is that safe LOL?

Thanks if you can help me.:)

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:34 PM

LuvJoyLunaDawg,

If you get in line at 11PM, you're almost guaranteed the Best Buy laptop.

What city do you live in?

jason

11-12-2005, 3:34 PM

where can i find an external enclosure
how much are they
and do they work good (just the same as an external one)

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:35 PM

Jason - Please read my post again and click the link I provided.

LuvJoyLunaDawg

11-12-2005, 3:36 PM

LuvJoyLunaDawg,

If you get in line at 11PM, you're almost guaranteed the Best Buy laptop.

What city do you live in?

Destin, FL. (inbetween Pensacola and Panama City)

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:38 PM

Destin, FL. (inbetween Pensacola and Panama City)
If you get in line at 11PM your chances of getting the laptop are very good.

Is it safe? I don't know the neighborhood like you do, I'd recommend bringing a cell phone and a friend.

LuvJoyLunaDawg

11-12-2005, 3:41 PM

If you get in line at 11PM your chances of getting the laptop are very good.

Is it safe? I don't know the neighborhood like you do, I'd recommend bringing a cell phone and a friend.

The area where Best Buy is is a brand new area. I'm thinking we should be fine but it does made me a little uncomfortable. I'll bring at least one other person with me, definitely. Thanks for your help!

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 3:45 PM

You're welcome :)

This is a GREAT deal considering it's a Toshiba laptop, has built-in WiFi and NO REBATES!

jason

11-12-2005, 3:49 PM

thanks RossMan

LuvJoyLunaDawg

11-12-2005, 3:51 PM

You're welcome :)

This is a GREAT deal considering it's a Toshiba laptop, has built-in WiFi and NO REBATES!

Yes, I'm so excited because BB has everything I really need! (laptop, CF card, DVD's and boxed sets, DS games...), I can probably get out by 6 or so.. Then the whole family can meet for breakfast at Waffle House. And then, Gymboree opens at 8am with their 55% off sale!:lolrun:

protege2003

11-12-2005, 4:02 PM

Kokomo, Best Buy, we were in line around 5ish and all the E-Machines vouchers were LONG gone. Must have more hardcore shoppers in Kokomo than in Indy.

It's all the cheap engineers from Delphi.

noitammus

11-12-2005, 5:17 PM

Does anyone know the upgradeability of these laptops?
Usually, it isn't too difficult to upgrade the memory, and most of these machines have 2 dimm slots. But what about processors?
Is it possible to put a Turion64 into the Walmart/HP notebook, as the sempron shows its age in the future? Or how about a Pentium-M into the Best Buy/Toshiba or the Staples/Acer? If you were able to drop in a Pentium-M into the Toshiba or the Acer, would the power managing features of the Pentium work? Would the 64bit capability of the Turion work in the HP?
I'm guessing that doing so would probably void the warrenty, but the warrenties seem pretty short anyway.
Of course, this is assuming that these cheap lappies live long enough to be upgraded...which may not be the case.

zameerb

11-12-2005, 7:56 PM

Hi
anyone knows for sure if walmart hp laptop BF offer is av available online or not
thanks
Sameer

Daisimae

11-12-2005, 8:21 PM

I found the specs for the Staples Laptop:

http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&ref=2000&aff=IntactEarnings&product=2515706

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

The Acer Aspire 361LCi is an awesome notebook for home users and students. It's powered by a 1.5GHz Intel® Celeron® M370 processor so it delivers quick, on-demand performance. Store photos, music files, data and programs on the large 40GB hard drive. The 256MB memory delivers loads of power to work with data and process program information easily. It also features a convenient CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive. Games, DVDs and photos pop with colour and detail on the 15.4" WXGA display that features Acer's CrystalBrite Technology. If you're on the move and want to use Internet public hotspots, the Acer Aspire 361LCi features wireless connectivity so you can surf the Net and check your email virtually anywhere. Loaded with features yet still lightweight, the Acer Aspire 361LCi is the perfect portable PC notebook.

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

PROCESSOR: 1.5GHz Intel® Celeron® M370; CACHE MEMORY: 1MB L2 Cache
RAM: 256MB
HARD DRIVE: 40GB
DISPLAY: 15.4" WXGA with CrystalBrite Technology
MULTI-MEDIA DRIVE: Integrated CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive
MULTI-MEDIA CARD READER: N/A
SOUND: N/A
FAX/MODEM: V.92 modem
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY: 802.11b/g WLAN
NETWORK CARD: N/A
POINTING DEVICE: N/A
BATTERY: N/A; OPERATING SYSTEM: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
EXPANSION SLOTS: N/A
EXTERNAL PORTS: 4 x USB
1 x headphone/speakers/line-out
1 x microphone/line-in
1 x DC-in
1 x RJ-11 modem
1 x RJ-45 LAN
1 x VGA ;DIMENSIONS: Height: 335mm (13.2")
Width: 165mm (6.5")
Length: 406mm (16")
Weight: 3.5kg (7.7lbs)
WARRANTY: 1 year

thekidrocks

11-12-2005, 9:20 PM

My personal vote is for the Acer at Staples - same maker as the Gateway at Best Buy BTW. Also last year they ordered items that they sold out of, and had them delivered to your door. I'd bet they will do that again this year.

I'd rather pay $449 for a laptop I don't have to fight over, or get no sleep over than save some bucks and loose a lot of sleep.

itslisa

11-12-2005, 9:30 PM

I made a comparison table for $600 or less laptops.
Let me know if other information or more laptops should be added.

Any chance we can expand that table? I would really like to see the Staples Acer and the CompUSA Acer (w/ Turion) added to the mix. I know the Turion is more $, but my husband is pretty sold on it.

Does anyone have any thought here on that laptop?

We are staying away from models like Dell and Gateway .....

DragonSlayer1500

11-12-2005, 10:36 PM

It's all the cheap engineers from Delphi.

Yep, pretty much.

bennettg

11-12-2005, 10:59 PM

Please add the staples and compusa to the table. Need info on Battery!!!!!

Also suggest a row in the table for whether the deal is available online

jason

11-12-2005, 11:46 PM

is the staples acer laptop any better than the hp at walmart?

jason

11-12-2005, 11:47 PM

will i notice a big difference between 256 memory and 512 memory if i use the laptop for just internet and simple stuff

RossMAN

11-12-2005, 11:48 PM

will i notice a big difference between 256 memory and 512 memory if i use the laptop for just internet and simple stuff
Considering it costs $30 to buy another 256MB RAM, I'd save up and upgrade to 512MB.

Windows XP will work on 256MB RAM but it's not recommended.

clips2save

11-13-2005, 12:00 AM

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 12:11 AM

I really do not know a whole lot about the various types of servers, etc. Is the WM one wireless only or can it be plugged in? I have dial up on my desktop & do not want to have to get another server. Thanks for helping the tech. challenged.
The Best Buy and Walmart laptops can connect to the internet 3 different ways:

Internal 56k modem for dialup, just plug in the phone line directly into the laptop.
Internal 10/100 Ethernet for high speed internet.
802.11b/g WiFi fi you have high speed broadband and a wireless router

So it should not be a problem, you can find complete specs here (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showpost.php?p=115661&postcount=75)

Here is a very helpful side-by-side comparison of 4 laptops
http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/laptops.htm

itslisa

11-13-2005, 12:22 AM

Considering it costs $30 to buy another 256MB RAM, I'd save up and upgrade to 512MB.

Windows XP will work on 256MB RAM but it's not recommended.

What about the cost of having it installed? I've installed stuff in the desktop before - but I've never messed with a laptop

Daisimae

11-13-2005, 12:35 AM

itslisa

11-13-2005, 12:36 AM

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 12:41 AM

It takes a small screwdriver and less than two minutes to install the extra RAM. I installed extra RAM into this laptop after I bought it. It ws painless and extremely easy. The computer "saw" it the first time I turned it on after installing.
Correct.

I'm not that computer hardware savvy and I was able to upgrade my 256MB RAM to 1.25GB in about 5 minutes.

Just flipped the laptop upside down, remove two small screws, discharged my static by touching a piece of metal, inserted the RAM and it snapped in place. Put the cover back on, put screws back in and boot it up.

itslisa

11-13-2005, 12:45 AM

Correct.

I'm not that computer hardware savvy and I was able to upgrade my 256MB RAM to 1.25GB in about 5 minutes.

Just flipped the laptop upside down, remove two small screws, discharged my static by touching a piece of metal, inserted the RAM and it snapped in place. Put the cover back on, put screws back in and boot it up.

Well ... thanks for the vote of confidence. :) I have no problem rippign apart a PC ... but a laptop ... YIKES ... scary tiny place. :) If I choose that one .. we'll give it a whirl! DH is really loving the idea of the Comp USA Acer Turion though ....

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 12:47 AM

Well ... thanks for the vote of confidence. :) I have no problem rippign apart a PC ... but a laptop ... YIKES ... scary tiny place. :) If I choose that one .. we'll give it a whirl! DH is really loving the idea of the Comp USA Acer Turion though ....
You're welcome. I am confident in upgrading the RAM in a laptop, anything else and I'll have a friend or professional do it.

Laptops are fragile and easy to break if you don't know what you're doing.

_John_Lennon_

11-13-2005, 12:52 AM

What about ESD issues?

ESD is not too much off an issue with modern day computer parts.

itslisa

11-13-2005, 12:54 AM

ESD is not too much off an issue with modern day computer parts.

Hey hey hey ... now I'm not THAT old! LOL Yet .. I do clearly remember having that nasty shoe thing!

Da Puff

11-13-2005, 12:57 AM

Any chance we can expand that table? I would really like to see the Staples Acer and the CompUSA Acer (w/ Turion) added to the mix. I know the Turion is more $, but my husband is pretty sold on it.

Does anyone have any thought here on that laptop?

We are staying away from models like Dell and Gateway .....

I'll add those to the table tomorrow. Any others I should add?

itslisa

11-13-2005, 12:59 AM

I'll add those to the table tomorrow.

Thank you!

Any others I should add?
Not unless you can increase my shopping budget???????

BLKFRI

11-13-2005, 2:53 AM

Does the Acer from Staples have a PCMCA slot? From the specs it looks like the Toshiba at Best Buy does. I just bought a TV card from Fry's for $30 AR and a laptop padded bag. I'm already buying needed accessories for my new laptop.

Mike

11-13-2005, 2:56 AM

I have never seen a laptop without a PCMCIA slot on it.

BLKFRI

11-13-2005, 3:10 AM

The cheaper ones have no slot cuz now wireless is built in and no one uses modems and the Great Quality ones at Fry's do not have one for sure.

Mike

11-13-2005, 3:14 AM

Yea, but are you talking about Fry's "Best Quality" brand? I wouldn't really use them as a bench mark to judge the rest of the industry.

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 3:20 AM

Searched Google for the Acer 3613LCi specs and found this (http://www.ats-systems.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=4005017)

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 3:21 AM

Yea, but are you talking about Fry's "Best Quality" brand? I wouldn't really use them as a bench mark to judge the rest of the industry.
Actually I think it's called GQ (Great Quality), no thanks, I'll pass :wife:

Mike

11-13-2005, 3:22 AM

Actually I think it's called GQ (Great Quality), no thanks, I'll pass :wife:

You're right, its GQ. I don't know if I could buy something where they advertise the "supposed" quality in the name itself.

noitammus

11-13-2005, 3:28 AM

Never mind, I screwed something up.

tmkuroda

11-13-2005, 8:54 AM

With the old laptop I have now I can pop the cd/dvd drive out. Are you able to upgrade these to a dvd burner as easily?
Tina

BLKFRI

11-13-2005, 10:45 AM

RossMAN, thanks for the info. For those who can't make Best Buy, the Acer seems to be is a great sub for the Toshiba. As for the GQ notebooks I know 3 people who have them. I upgraded the HD's for them. Way easier than taking the whole Toshiba apart. They get the job done. For under $400, they are excellent for working in the field. And I do mean "in the field". If someone steals it, or it gets run over, your not out a lot of $$$.
But remember, back up your data nightly.

poolboy305

11-13-2005, 11:16 AM

I live next to a 24 hour walmart they always close from midnight to 5:00am on bf to get ready for the madness . i live in a medium city. i was wondering what time i needed to get there to get the $398 laptop. They always open at 5:00am on bf. I'm thinking about going at 2:00am. do you think i will get it.

dissident

11-13-2005, 12:04 PM

you should call to see how wal-mart handles the laptops... if they issue vouchers or just have a free for all, and also verify the location of the laptop so you can RUN right to it right away. Otherwise it's a crap shoot, waiting all that time and perhaps not getting one.

darkzeus

11-13-2005, 3:26 PM

Here is a good question, what about all the wal-marts that I have called and they don't carry HP laptops? Is this HP laptop gonna be available only for BF or after BF? Or should the wal-marts already carry this product at a normal price, or other HP laptop products for that matter.

Thanks

pinkroses4mommy

11-13-2005, 3:53 PM

I saw that Best Buy had a limit of 1 laptop per household. Does anyone know if Wal-mart has a limit?

BLKFRI

11-13-2005, 3:56 PM

How would they know? Pay with cash!

samir

11-13-2005, 4:18 PM

My question is "How many people are going to get a laptop on this black friday?" I just want want to know my chances of getting one at Wal Mart or Best Buy.

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 4:23 PM

My question is "How many people are going to get a laptop on this black friday?" I just want want to know my chances of getting one at Wal Mart or Best Buy.
Laptops will be VERY popular for 3 reasons:

The BF mentality that prices are at their all-time low and this is totally not true.
$399 low prices, where as other laptops normally cost around $1,000
No rebates for the two most popular laptops HP @<hidden> Walmart and the better Toshiba @<hidden> Best Buy.

My advice to you get is get in line EARLY. Otherwise there will be 100 people in front of you and each store only has a few laptops.

samir

11-13-2005, 4:28 PM

How long is the battery life of HP Pavilion ze2308wm? The only thing that stops me of getting Toshiba is its battery life. And I think Sempron at HP is better than Celeron at Toshiba

rjjan

11-13-2005, 5:09 PM

The laptops at Wal Mart are based upon if they carry them everyday or not. If they have a laptop section now at your local Wal Mart they will have more laptops on BF compared to the stores that do not carry laptops. Example: the Supercenter here in town does have laptop now and they are getting 35. The Wal Mart that is a couple of miles down the road does not carry laptops and they are getting 10 for BF. Call the store that your going to shop and ask for the manager over electronics and ask them how many they are getting.

89MustangGX

11-13-2005, 5:34 PM

How long is the battery life of HP Pavilion ze2308wm? The only thing that stops me of getting Toshiba is its battery life. And I think Sempron at HP is better than Celeron at Toshiba

That was a potential concern for me as well. I do see that Toshiba has an 8-cell battery available (which presumably doubles life of the 4-cell) if it becomes a problem. It was about $100 IIRC. Just something else to consider...

nikov3

11-13-2005, 6:14 PM

i couldnt find the battery for the toshiba on bestbuy.com
where did u find it?

89MustangGX

11-13-2005, 6:19 PM

i couldnt find the battery for the toshiba on bestbuy.com
where did u find it?

I went right to Toshiba's website. They have a full spec sheet as well as accessories and lots of other stuff there for the laptop.

www.toshibadirect.com

Battery part number: PA3420U-1BRS

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?poid=294716&seg=HHO

The part number says it's for an L15 series, but it comes up as being an accessory for the L25 if you go through the menu system, and the same part number is listed in the spec sheet for the L25, so I'm thinking it's the right one.

Adam

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 6:53 PM

TheLegend

11-13-2005, 9:10 PM

That was a potential concern for me as well. I do see that Toshiba has an 8-cell battery available (which presumably doubles life of the 4-cell) if it becomes a problem. It was about $100 IIRC. Just something else to consider...

The 4-cell battery is probably there because of price point issues. Most people are going to see the price first and specs second.

I looked at the comparison chart last night that Ross posted and the Toshiba at Best Buy has more potential than WalMart's HP. Some people prefer AMD processors over Intel. But the Intel Celeron's 1MB cache give it a lot more breathing room than the AMD Sempron's 256KB. The Toshiba also is using 25% faster RAM and 20% faster FSB (FSB means "Front Side Buss" which is the internal speed between the processor and cache, and about 15% faster drive speed.

For anyone contemplating which one to go for... ideally the best thing would be to try and find a similar working model on display somewhere and try them out with some simple tasks (see how quickly windows open and close, or how fast graphics load on the screen.)

nickle831

11-13-2005, 9:22 PM

Okay the laptop they are going to have on sale on BF at BB is the same one we bought last week on sale for $599 (or $549 don't remember exactly). We haven't opened it yet. Would I be able to return it and rebuy it or get a price difference reimbursment?

AFV

11-13-2005, 9:43 PM

Hi Brad,

Will we be seeing more ad scans besides the ones on the ad scan thread?

89MustangGX

11-13-2005, 10:14 PM

The 4-cell battery is probably there because of price point issues. Most people are going to see the price first and specs second.

I looked at the comparison chart last night that Ross posted and the Toshiba at Best Buy has more potential than WalMart's HP. Some people prefer AMD processors over Intel. But the Intel Celeron's 1MB cache give it a lot more breathing room than the AMD Sempron's 256KB. The Toshiba also is using 25% faster RAM and 20% faster FSB (FSB means "Front Side Buss" which is the internal speed between the processor and cache, and about 15% faster drive speed.

I agree on all counts.

I looked over the specs of the different laptops and decided that all things considered I liked the Toshiba better. That's partially the reason I went looking for a better battery.

If you spend just another $100 on the battery, and another $100 on memory (1g)[turn up the video memory share to 128mb], I'm not sure there are any other laptops in the $600 range that would compare. You could even go a step further and spend $150 on a 7200RPM HDD (100g) and I would think for under $750 total you'd have a killer little laptop.

Adam

RossMAN

11-13-2005, 10:58 PM

Hi Brad,

Will we be seeing more ad scans besides the ones on the ad scan thread?
Yes, when new ads are submitted to us (http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/Submit) they will be posted. We don't have a BF ads tree or secret vault where all these ads come from.

There are 3 stores left which might have laptops: Circuit City, Fry's and Micro Center.

nfbsk

11-14-2005, 12:00 AM

The 4-cell battery is probably there because of price point issues. Most people are going to see the price first and specs second.

I looked at the comparison chart last night that Ross posted and the Toshiba at Best Buy has more potential than WalMart's HP. Some people prefer AMD processors over Intel. But the Intel Celeron's 1MB cache give it a lot more breathing room than the AMD Sempron's 256KB. The Toshiba also is using 25% faster RAM and 20% faster FSB (FSB means "Front Side Buss" which is the internal speed between the processor and cache, and about 15% faster drive speed.

For anyone contemplating which one to go for... ideally the best thing would be to try and find a similar working model on display somewhere and try them out with some simple tasks (see how quickly windows open and close, or how fast graphics load on the screen.)

I wouldn't believe those numbers as an indicator of good performance... AMD processors favor latency over bandwidth, and even though the celeron uses faster DDR2 at 533MHZ, it has more latency. AMD processors use an integrated memory controller to reduce latency, in addition to the 800MHZ HyperTransport bus which brings up the effective system bandwidth to 1600MHZ. The NXBit or no execute bit which is a hardware based virus protection is a plus.

caigiday

11-14-2005, 1:40 AM

hi,
i'm new to walmart bf, wondering if anyone can tell me as for walmart supercenter, it's 24hr then how will they do the bf? what line do I have to get into to get the laptop?
thanks a lot

BLKFRI

11-14-2005, 1:49 AM

hi,
i'm new to walmart bf, wondering if anyone can tell me as for walmart supercenter, it's 24hr then how will they do the bf? what line do I have to get into to get the laptop?
thanks a lot

see this:

http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=19445

killerkhalsa

11-14-2005, 8:02 AM

the WalMart laptop(398 dollar HP) has a cache size of just 256KB where as the one at BestBuy(378 Dollars Toshiba) has 1 MB cache and all other centrino laptops have a cache size of 2MB or more which is something noteworthy and which cannot be upgraded like RAM. Plz check this spec well before goin for the laptop from WalMart.
and yes Cache is really expensive and which is what saving them money on this hp laptop.

saluken

11-14-2005, 3:25 PM

DarkDogg

11-14-2005, 3:40 PM

stationchief

11-14-2005, 3:51 PM

I found at the toshiba website they have a $100 mail in rebate for the Toshiba satelite a80(the same laptop they have at bb for $379) It should work since bb only has instant savings on the laptop. I would put a link, but I guess I havent posted enought to put in a link. Here is the url if you want paste it into your browser:

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/rebate_to_a80s178td_123105.pdf

There's no details as to those instant rebates from Best Buy and what they are. One IR might be including that $100 off instantly instead of having to mail it in.

BTW ... Is that the same one being offered on BF? Model number seems different, but the specs are the same. If it is, depending on the details about those instant rebates, this might be a very profitable find and may change some people's decision of what laptop to buy.

dhancock219

11-14-2005, 4:14 PM

We're fortunate enough to live near a Microcenter store (I think they only have 12 stores nationwide), and I should be getting their BF ad in the mail any day.....they always cream the "Big boys" in price and quality on BF.

zgamer

11-14-2005, 4:24 PM

The $379 laptop model is L25-S1192. It is not A80. Am I missing something?

Correct, it is the L25-1192.

saluken

11-14-2005, 4:35 PM

THanks, I missed the model number. I just compared the pictures and specs and thought they might match. HEy $379 for the laptop is still a sweet deal. I'll be up early that morning.

Kandy

11-14-2005, 5:24 PM

thanks for the comparison chart DA PUFF

samir

11-14-2005, 5:35 PM

What if Fries BF sale will be better than Wal Mart's or Best Buy's? Do you think it is possible?

zgamer

11-14-2005, 6:01 PM

The sub-400 laptops are cheap but before I would use them I would spend an extra $100 for memory for the laptop at the very least to get any decent performance....at that rate it may be better to look elsewhere.

samir

11-14-2005, 6:18 PM

Yeah, I think so. And not only memory, you have to upgrade the battery too.
Hour and 30 minutes won't satisfy you a lot. But in common if you upgrade everything it is still a good deal, comparing to 1000-1500$ laptops

MShopper63

11-14-2005, 6:58 PM

Hi Everyone,

I am so glad I found this site. I just love all the information you guys give. I have a question for the tech people out there. I've seen lots of comparison on the WM vs BB $400 laptop. What I'm wondering is what is your take on the Tosh vs Gateway at BB on BF. Thanks :)

rjjan

11-14-2005, 7:49 PM

Wal mart laptops are $488 and that is in the norteast. I saw a WalMart BF flyer today and the laptop and desktop are $488. will this affect the buying lineup??? I called BB today and the one here in Mass has only 10 to give at that price.

RossMAN

11-14-2005, 7:57 PM

I've seen lots of comparison on the WM vs BB $400 laptop. What I'm wondering is what is your take on the Tosh vs Gateway at BB on BF. Thanks :)
I would go with the Gateway because of these added features/specs:

15.4" widescreen LCD with better resolution than the Toshiba.
512MB RAM vs 256MB RAM, just enough for Windows XP Home.
60GB Hard Drive vs 40GB
DVD Burner vs combo CD/DVD. You can burn DVDs, CDs and watch them as well.
4 USB ports vs. 3.
1 FireWire vs. no FireWire.
Not sure about battery life.

You did check out Da Puff's laptop comparison chart (http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/laptops.htm), right?

Daisimae

11-14-2005, 7:57 PM

That's it! I'll be at the BB near my house in MA at 10pm.

LuvJoyLunaDawg

11-14-2005, 8:13 PM

With the Walmart $488 thing I'm wondering if I should get to BB earlier. UGH. I am not gonna be a happy camper lol. Literally.

_John_Lennon_

11-14-2005, 9:05 PM

I would go with the Gateway because of these added features/specs:

15.4" widescreen LCD with better resolution than the Toshiba.
512MB RAM vs 256MB RAM, just enough for Windows XP Home.
60GB Hard Drive vs 40GB
DVD Burner vs combo CD/DVD. You can burn DVDs, CDs and watch them as well.
4 USB ports vs. 3.
1 FireWire vs. no FireWire.
Not sure about battery life.

You did check out Da Puff's laptop comparison chart (http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/laptops.htm), right?

I have had a 15.4 inch laptop and must say I dislike it. The odd screen resolution would cause small problems for me all the time, like when I try and download a wall paper, or run some of my games, they would show up differently, or when I tried to hook my laptop up to a projector.

For me it ended up being too much hassle for that extra .4 inch, but your mileage may vary.

pcsoon

11-14-2005, 10:12 PM

I wouldn't go with the gateway. According to Da Puff's laptop comparison chart, It has a slower procesor, older ram technology, a slower HD, and a older graphics chip which only supports 32mg(?). I can easily add ram and with USB 2.0, firewire is not that much of an issue for me.:)

Graveytrain12

11-14-2005, 10:16 PM

I actually like the toshiba better because it has 1)PC4200 Ram instead of the 2700 that the gateway has, even though it's less, it's fast. 2)Has a little bit more processing speed. 3)It has a Radeon X200M graphics card instead of onboard graphics processing. 4) It's cheaper. However, if you want something that'll burn DVD's and etc, the Gateway is the way to go. Actually, I'm still unsure on which one I'm going to get myself.

nickle831

11-14-2005, 10:22 PM

does the toshiba have windows XP on it?

cristinahot417

11-14-2005, 10:25 PM

Does anyone know if the best buy ad for the Gateway Laptop for $597 has a spot on the ad where it tells you how many are available?

Thanks,
Cristina:)

Brad

11-14-2005, 10:31 PM

It does, but the camera flash obscures it.

zgamer

11-14-2005, 11:57 PM

Just a thought about the hp from walmart, the cpu is upgradeable....voids warranty but....you could but a turion in it if you wanted to....not sure about the toshiba but there are take-apart diagrams on hp's site for the one from walmart.

Speaking of which, I'm sure that the toshiba's cpu isn't soldered on so it is replaceable....anyone know if the motherboard supports the 533fsb from the dothlan Pentium M's?

stationchief

11-15-2005, 5:47 AM

Does anyone know if the best buy ad for the Gateway Laptop for $597 has a spot on the ad where it tells you how many are available?

Thanks,
Cristina:)

Yup, it has a spot. ;) Problem is, in the ad scan it looks like that part of the page caught some of the light's flash and it got blurred out.

red822

11-15-2005, 10:25 AM

What about the Toshiba L25-S1192 Celeron M 370 Notebook w/ 256MB/40GB/WiFi/Combo Drive - $379.99 * at Best Buy. Do you know anything about it.:gd_steeri

red822

11-15-2005, 10:28 AM

I guess I'll go to Wal Mart

BLKFRI

11-15-2005, 10:59 AM

After reading the manual for the Acer at Staples, it says it contains 3200/400 ram and is upgradable to 4200/533. This is different from the specs that show it as 2100/266. I'm going down to Staples to see if this is correct.

zgamer

11-15-2005, 11:27 AM

A couple of thoughts after looking at the different laptops

BB Gateway -
-overpriced for what you get compared to the rest

BB Toshiba (checked out the 1194....slightly dif. than the 1192) -
-Screen has some flex
-Last year's keyboard had some defects and would break every couple of months(keyboard was redesigned) and the cpu fan tended to have bad bearings from a year ago.
-faster hard drive and 2gigs max memory are a big plus
-no possibility for internal firewire or card reader(other than pcmcia)
-batter life is lacking

HP from WM
-1gig max ram is a problem
-$398 is a decent price, $498 is not worth it
-firewire can be added later...and cpu upgraded to turion
-textured case has a different feel...check out circuit city or compusa as they have slightly different models in stock
-The WM branding on it has issues (to me at least) as I know how companies tend to cut corners when getting in the small conferences with walmart about products and price.....basically you might end up with cheaper made equipment...instead of a metal bracket they will make it plastic to nickel and dime equipment to crappy quality.

CompUSA
-Unless you are looking for a year of AOL dial-up, not worth looking

Acer - Staples
-decent upgradability
-series has had marginal reviews and build quality issues

Kalel

11-15-2005, 12:44 PM

mmm much to think about gateway laptop. Few day ago i thought it was the one to buy, but right now i´m a little confuse.

DVD RW is attractive, but maybe its a trap haha
:)

John1983

11-15-2005, 12:48 PM

dhancock219

11-15-2005, 1:15 PM

I'm looking at the copies I made of the rebate forms from this pc/monitor we bought a couple of weeks ago. There is a $50 rebate for the pc valid on purchases from 9/14/2005-1/31/2006, and on the monitor it is $50 for purchases from 7/31/2005-12/31-2005. It doesn't exclude BF date anywhere on the form, but might be wise to print these rebate forms from the Best Buy website before they "conveniently disappear". If they fly, the pc/monitor will be a grand total of $50, which would make it the steal of BF.

dhancock219

11-15-2005, 1:16 PM

sorry, wrong forum, should have been in the desktop

stationchief

11-15-2005, 1:53 PM

If you put one on layaway now, cancel the layaway and then buy it on Black Friday, will they have it in stock for you to buy then? Do you need to be in line super early? I love the idea but I want to make sure I know what to do.

You put it on layaway now, on BF go to layaway and say you don't want it anymore, they refund your deposit, put it aside for re-stocking, when suddenly you say "Ya know what, I'll just go ahead and buy it straight out", they give you back said layaway laptop, take laptop to front checkout and $$$!

Think I know what he's talking about, but I'd be more careful than that if I were you guys. That's all assuming they'll have anyone working in layaway on BF since I don't believe they allow layaways on that day. Check with your local WM and make sure they'll even allow layaway transactions on BF.

pebbles

11-15-2005, 1:54 PM

stationchief

11-15-2005, 2:22 PM

Ok, I know nothing about computers, however regarding the Toshiba laptop my friend said

"OK, I think the best value in that list is the Toshiba. Definitely the best performance in the group. But you'd want to upgrade the RAM. The best way would be to buy a 1GB kit (two 512MB chips, matched). You can currently get it for $82.75, delivered. (Because it's DDR2 RAM, it's faster, but the double data rate (DDR2) feature only works properly when using matched pairs of RAM chips.)

It will leave you with an unused 256MB ram chip from the original box, which you could prolly sell on ebay with no trouble, or keep as a spare, or whatever. For about $40, instead, you could buy just one 256MB chip, and hope it matches well with the existing one. That would leave you with the minimum I'd recommend, which is 512 MB total. But for the extra $40-ish bucks, it would be well worth getting a full GB of RAM."

Since I know nothing about computers, and will be camping out at Best Buy for Black Friday, are there any other specials at Best Buy for RAM? And I'm planning to go with a wireless internet. Routers? Can I get it all at Best Buy?

Have to agree with the memory being upgraded, and if you're willing to put forth the effort on eBay, go ahead and go for the 1GB upgrade kit. Far as performance, the Toshiba did have more cache, but a slightly slower processor speed to make up for HP's lower cache and faster processor. They're both pretty comparable.

The deals at BB thus far are for DDR2700 desktop memory. Dunno if anyone has deals on laptop memory yet, but you never know. BB does have a wireless-g router for sale after a mail-in rebate, and you get a $10 gift gard with it. Think all you'll need for wireless internet is that router, since the laptop comes wiht integraded 802.11 wireless LAN (the wireless reciever).

pebbles

11-15-2005, 3:20 PM

Have to agree with the memory being upgraded, and if you're willing to put forth the effort on eBay, go ahead and go for the 1GB upgrade kit. Far as performance, the Toshiba did have more cache, but a slightly slower processor speed to make up for HP's lower cache and faster processor. They're both pretty comparable.

The deals at BB thus far are for DDR2700 desktop memory. Dunno if anyone has deals on laptop memory yet, but you never know. BB does have a wireless-g router for sale after a mail-in rebate, and you get a $10 gift gard with it. Think all you'll need for wireless internet is that router, since the laptop comes wiht integraded 802.11 wireless LAN (the wireless reciever).

Thanks!
Would the Netgear Super G Wireless Router and Card work also?

stationchief

11-15-2005, 3:28 PM

Thanks!
Would the Netgear Super G Wireless Router and Card work also?

Yeah, that too. However, since your "future" laptop will have a wireless card integrated, you don't need that extra wireless card with the router. That's why I recommend the LynkSys one. Both are the same price after rebates, but the LynkSys comes with the gift card.

Kalel

11-15-2005, 3:42 PM

mmm i guess gateway laptop will sleep friday night at Best Buy:)

stationchief

11-15-2005, 4:02 PM

mmm i guess gateway laptop will sleep friday night at Best Buy:)

Hmm me think you miss morning friday laptop.

:smiley_nu :g_laughin

AHEM. Sorry, couldn't resist! Anyhoo, if you're planning on sleeping at BB on friday nite, hope you're not planning on taking advantage of those friday morning sales. Sleep there on thursday nite. It'll be much more profitable.

Kalel

11-15-2005, 4:05 PM

Sorry for my bad english. I mean Gateway laptops will be still at night because nobody will buy it!

stationchief

11-15-2005, 4:16 PM

Sorry for my bad english. I mean Gateway laptops will be still at night because nobody will buy it!

Alot of people will. It's a pretty high-end laptop, and a good price at $579 out the door. It's for the more serious business-person needing that much power on the go, not for us common consumers who just want wireless internet. There's lots of choices out there for different needs.

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 4:51 PM

Alot of people will. It's a pretty high-end laptop, and a good price at $579 out the door. It's for the more serious business-person needing that much power on the go, not for us common consumers who just want wireless internet. There's lots of choices out there for different needs.
Actually I would consider it higher lower end. It's still a good deal considering you get DOUBLE the RAM, 15.4" widescreen LCD with better resolution, FireWire, 4 USB ports, and of course DVD Burner.

Middle end - HP Pavilion DV4000 or Dell Inspiron 6000
High end - Corporate level, Apple PowerBook 15", IBM ThinkPad T42 series, etc.

stationchief

11-15-2005, 5:12 PM

Actually I would consider it higher lower end. It's still a good deal considering you get DOUBLE the RAM, 15.4" widescreen LCD with better resolution, FireWire, 4 USB ports, and of course DVD Burner.

Middle end - HP Pavilion DV4000 or Dell Inspiron 6000
High end - Corporate level, Apple PowerBook 15", IBM ThinkPad T42 series, etc.

Yeah, kinda what I meant. It's got xtra stuff (extra ports, DVD burner, more this, more that, etc.) that might be unnecessary for "common" use. I'd say about higher "consumer user" type.

phatferd

11-15-2005, 5:37 PM

Here is an update regarding the Wal-Mart deal. I called my local Wal-Mart and got a guy who was pretty cool (he was the supervisor because I purposely asked for him and was on hold for about 3 minutes while they got him).

He told me they will be selling it at $388, but he does not know how many he will be getting. He won't know until that morning, but he assumes it will be a good amount.

The lady who I spoke with in Customer Service told me there is a huge line by 4:00am, but it's kind of ridiculous because they don't run out of things that often so everyone still gets what they want.

albrandwood

11-15-2005, 5:52 PM

"OK, I think the best value in that list is the Toshiba. Definitely the best performance in the group. But you'd want to upgrade the RAM. The best way would be to buy a 1GB kit (two 512MB chips, matched). You can currently get it for $82.75, delivered. (Because it's DDR2 RAM, it's faster, but the double data rate (DDR2) feature only works properly when using matched pairs of RAM chips.)

It will leave you with an unused 256MB ram chip from the original box, which you could prolly sell on ebay with no trouble, or keep as a spare, or whatever. For about $40, instead, you could buy just one 256MB chip, and hope it matches well with the existing one. That would leave you with the minimum I'd recommend, which is 512 MB total. But for the extra $40-ish bucks, it would be well worth getting a full GB of RAM."

A little knowledge can be dangerous ...

Good news is your friend is right ... about the best value.

Bad news is that your friend is wrong about the technicalities of DDR ...
he is confusing DDR with Dual Channel.

DDRRam (or DDR2) basically means that data is written to the chip both at the front and the back of the clock signal ... and is basically Double the Data Rate of Synchronous DRAM. (also, just as an fyi, DDR2 is sometimes labeled as PCxx00 ... multiply the DDR2-xxx value by 8, to get to the PCxx00 value:
DDR2-266 = PC2100; DDR2-400 = PC3200; DDR2-500=PC4000 etc...)

With Dual Channel, then you are using 2x DDR2 ram modules simultaneously. and Does require matched pairs... which only the top end equipment has ... and these $400 notebooks are definitely not that...

The Toshiba L25-S1192 notebook uses DDR2-533 (aka PC4200) SoDimm ... It supports upto 2Gb of memory (2x 1gb modules) ... since it ships with 1x 256mb, I'd recommend buying 1x 512Mb ... But whatever you buy, insure that it is _AT_LEAST_ 533Mhz ( DDR2-533 or PC4200 ) and that it is a SoDimm (if it isn't, it wont _fit_ inside a notebook.

Other than that, these machines (Toshiba, Acer, eMachines, whatever) will all make good websurfing machines ... none will make an outstanding games machine ... but then, they are only $400 or so...

@<hidden>

chickenz

11-15-2005, 5:55 PM

anyone check out that compaq BB was offering ? Compaq Mobile AMD Turion 64 Processor ML-28 Notebook w/ DVD Burner (AR) - $849.99

is this worth it? i use to won a compaq desktop and it wasn't very good..wasn't sre if compaq laptops are any good...or is this not a very good deal for what it has..here are the specs:

Tech Specs:

AMD64 technology provides simultaneous support for 32-bit and 64-bit computing, including today's 32-bit applications and tomorrow's 64-bit software

14" WXGA high-definition widescreen display with BrightView technology and 1280 x 768 resolution

80GB hard drive (4200 rpm)

ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP graphics with 128MB DDR shared video memory; S-video TV-out

6-in-1 digital media reader supports Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, SmartMedia and xD-Picture Card (does not support Memory Stick Duo media or adapters)

IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 3 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data transfer

Built-in 54g high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g) with 125HSM/SpeedBooster support; 10/100Base-T Ethernet with RJ-45 connector; 56 Kbps high-speed modem; Expansion Port 2 connector

Weighs only 5.4 lbs. and measures just 1.5" thin for easy portability; lithium-ion battery and AC adapter

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (SP2) operating system preinstalled; software package included with Adobe Photoshop Album, muvee autoProducer DVD Edition with Burning, Apple® iTunes and more

albrandwood

11-15-2005, 5:55 PM

Actually I would consider it higher lower end. It's still a good deal considering you get DOUBLE the RAM, 15.4" widescreen LCD with better resolution, FireWire, 4 USB ports, and of course DVD Burner.

Middle end - HP Pavilion DV4000 or Dell Inspiron 6000
High end - Corporate level, Apple PowerBook 15", IBM ThinkPad T42 series, etc.

I'm not sure an Apple PowerBook is ever considered a "Corporate level" machine ... and most Corporates I visit, use the Dell Latitude D610 ... although the IBM T-series is nice, I prefer my Dell XPS-M170.

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 6:03 PM

I'm not sure an Apple PowerBook is ever considered a "Corporate level" machine ... and most Corporates I visit, use the Dell Latitude D610 ... although the IBM T-series is nice, I prefer my Dell XPS-M170.
I should have listed corporate laptops last. I didn't mean to imply the Apple PB is a corporate laptop which it isn't but it's definitely high end vs the iBook.

albrandwood

11-15-2005, 6:08 PM

I should have listed corporate laptops last. I didn't mean to imply the Apple PB is a corporate laptop which it isn't but it's definitely high end vs the iBook.
ok ... let you off :-D

@<hidden>

samir

11-15-2005, 6:23 PM

To administration: When are you planning to get Fries Black friday sale offers?

Kalel

11-15-2005, 6:33 PM

Guys, you make me reconsider gateway laptop. See you at Best Buy next friday.

I accept the fact that gateway laptop maybe is not the best at video performance but DVD burner is attractive

rjjan

11-15-2005, 6:57 PM

The lap tops at wal mart are going to be $488 in the north east!!!!!!!!!!!
Belive me I know!!!!!! The best buy laptops are a min of 10 the max is 20 per store. Wal Mart is going to have 10- 65 per store based upon the fact if they carry lap-tops or do not carry lap-tops everyday!!! Also based upon sales(total store) last BF.
rj
Any ?'s ask me!!!

malachitecat

11-15-2005, 7:03 PM

If you put one on layaway now, cancel the layaway and then buy it on Black Friday, will they have it in stock for you to buy then?

You can't put it on layaway. The model for BF is a special model number. It is the exact same as the 2108 but has a different number so no one can but it early and return it & buy it again, or put it on layaway. I had one of the 2308's in my hand and tried to put it on layaway. The computer system would not allow the sale because it is for BF only.

rjjan

11-15-2005, 7:11 PM

malachitecat is right the model has to be the same!!!! I do not let the customers do this on BF because there are already long lines and it is not the same thing. The Gameboys are a different store because we have them at the regular price now and if you cancelled and repurchused them between 5 am and 11 am. That would do a price adjustment in the system but not before or after that time. You would save $30
rj
ps not on the laptops!!!!!

chickenz

11-15-2005, 7:22 PM

sinoke

11-15-2005, 7:30 PM

lol i bought a similar one at circuit city about 6 months ago. mine was $749 becuase I had three rebates to wait on and was only 60 gb hard drive. i'd be suprised if u could find your laptop cheaper than $849. it rules. the ati card makes it run a lot smoother. my friends laptop had similar specs as mine but his had a built in graphics card. lets just say, mine ran unreal tournament 2004 and half-life 2 smoothly, (though not like a $500 graphics can) and his couldn't. (you should have seen the look on his face) Also, the turion rules for gaming and if you compare price and power of the chips to pentium, their's no competition. I highly recommend it!

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 7:54 PM

To administration: When are you planning to get Fries Black friday sale offers?
I'm sorry I don't fully understand your question.

All the current Black Friday ads can be downloaded from here (http://forums.gottadeal.com/showthread.php?t=15792).

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 7:56 PM

What about battery life, how many cells is the battery? 4, 6, 8, 12?

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 8:09 PM

Link to laptop @<hidden> BB (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7367841&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01174&id=1125465158222)

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/7367/7367841_ra.jpg

It's 100x better than the other laptops offered during Black Friday.

However 99% of the people here are choosing price over quality/features.

samir

11-15-2005, 8:24 PM

I`m sorry I mean when are you going to put the "Fry's" store blackfriday offers. You don't have it in your list yet. Just the shop Fry's. I think I spelled it wrong.

89MustangGX

11-15-2005, 9:08 PM

With Dual Channel, then you are using 2x DDR2 ram modules simultaneously. and Does require matched pairs... which only the top end equipment has ... and these $400 notebooks are definitely not that...

Just wanted to point out that if you look at the spec sheet for the Toshiba notebook it states:

"256MB(min)/2048MB (max), 2 memory slots using 256MB, 512MB,
or 1024MB PC4200 DDR2 533MHz SDRAM 1.8V SODIMM
memory modules, dual-channel support requires two memory
modules of same capacity and clockspeed"

This makes me think that this $400 notebook does do dual-channel.

Adam

chickenz

11-15-2005, 10:22 PM

It's 100x better than the other laptops offered during Black Friday.

However 99% of the people here are choosing price over quality/features.

thanks rossman
any one know the battery life on this..i was walking around best buy tonite and the salesman said 5 hours....but he just blurted that out and didn't even look at what i was pointing at haha

thanks:2afro:

rodriguezaj

11-15-2005, 11:07 PM

I'll just say despite thier ratings,these noteboks/laptops are at such a great price the heck with it.

Mike

11-15-2005, 11:09 PM

Mike

11-15-2005, 11:10 PM

I`m sorry I mean when are you going to put the "Fry's" store blackfriday offers. You don't have it in your list yet. Just the shop Fry's. I think I spelled it wrong.

The ads are posted when they are available. So if it isn't posted, the BF ad is not available yet.

zgamer

11-15-2005, 11:40 PM

RossMAN

11-15-2005, 11:59 PM

$850 is the normal price for that compaq though...nothing special. In fact, CompUSA has it for cheaper this week @<hidden> $800.
I'm not saying it's a hot deal but it's definitely a better laptop.

It'd have to be around $699 for me to deem it hot deals worthy :violin:

chickenz

11-16-2005, 12:03 AM

hrm.... take try this on.

Walmart special $398
Turon 64 MT40 $292
1gig ram $100
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$790
give me a link to this..where is this located?

TheLegend

11-16-2005, 1:18 AM

give me a link to this..where is this located?

There's no link.

He is describing the cost of the BF laptop from WalMart, and replacing the Sempron with a Turion (which is based on the Antlon 64), and then adding/replacing the RAM with a larger one.

It would involve buying each item separately and then replacing the processor and RAM. Unless you're adept at cracking open a laptop and replacing chips yourself, it isn't for the average person.